Originally Posted By: Bill S.
...Samuel Johnson's stone kicking doesn't convince me. How can I know?
You mean Johnson, the one who refuted Bishop Berkley, the philosopher of immaterialism (that there are no material objects, only minds and ideas in those minds), who advocated subjective idealism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_lapidem
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Argumentum ad lapidem (Latin: "to the stone") is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity. The form of argument employed by such dismissals is the argumentum ad lapidem, or appeal to the stone...This action, which fails to prove the existence of the stone outside of the ideas formed by perception, fails to contradict Berkeley's argument, and has been seen as merely dismissing it.
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BTW, are you expecting a serious response from each of us who wrote on the point about conscience that was first raised by Ellis?

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