Rev wrote: We know we are breaking the laws of science when we have physical disease, suffering and pain.

Do we? Maybe the laws of science allow microbes, genes and other disease vectors the same discretion as they allow we humans. I find it repugnant to suggest that those unfortunate enough to suffer from disease should be regarded as law breakers of science law. There is no sense in that notion at all.

And I still ask the question 'Who is the judge?' There is talk of judgement--who is judging? What is the text? If the laws of science are the foundation laws, who is to be on the Defence team barracking for the microbes?---which by any natural law have a set of laws which grant them the right to exist too.