Originally Posted By: Revlgking

Although Panentheism (unitheism) lacked a clear label in philosophical and religious reflection about God until Karl Krause's (1781–1832) creation of the term in the Eighteenth century (Gregersen 2004, 28), various advocates and critics of panentheism find evidence of incipient or implicit forms of panentheism present in religious thought as early as 1300 BCE.

Early Vedantic thought, as well as some modern Indian thought, implies panentheism in non-Advaita forms that understand non-dualism as inclusive of differences.

Although there are texts referring to Brahman as contracted and identical to Brahman, other texts speak of Brahman as expanded. In these texts, the perfect includes and surpasses the total of imperfect things as an appropriation of the imperfect. Although not the dominant interpretation of the Upanishads, multiple intimations of panentheism are present in the Upanishads (Whittemore 1988, 33, 41–44).

The word theism (belief in God) or more succinctly the belief always precedes and follows the experience of God.
Being that any ism (distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice) must follow the established thought of that which is studied.. (This is the age of isms).. belief precedes that which is beyond belief, where experience rises from belief, and which is no longer a changing or evolving idea, but instead a substantial reality which does not change or evolve. (Which by the way is the science of Non Duality or Vedic literature and studies.)

I also mentioned that belief follows that which is spoken of by those who have re-cognized the tangible quality of the ineffible, as human experience. For example Buddhas description of the Bhuddi or the unchanging living presence within the enlightened state of being, which was also called the Christ, later described by Jesus in his ministry.

The beliefs assumed by those who heard of or followed the teachings of what both Jesus and Siddhartha taught, created a movement which later became the Bhuddist and Christian religions.

Tho the teachings were in actuality of the approach to direct experience, the population was mixed in their abilities to comprehend the language of what was being described. For the most part in their state of consciousness, belief only allowed the people to grasp the idea of God incarnate speaking of his experience of being Godly.

The superstitious then established a worship for the being they felt was superior to the typical human, and the more evolved entered into the timeless tradition of study and approach. The Same approach and discipline that Jesus and Siddhartha used to gain enlightenment.

The Brahama Sutras' written by Badarayana describe the experience of the ineffable and point towards the vastness of the absolute as having qualities within the human experience but also being beyond all quality within the quality of expanding experience.

The Upanishads describe enlightenment, or the experience of the absolute and the approach, as well as the history of guidance, or the use of discipline in focus and structure by one who has themselves mastered the approach to the experience.

The yoga Sutras written by Govinda Yogindra predate Jesus' introduction to the experience of God by some 5000 years, and in his text he describes 4 states of consciousness above and beyond the known sleeping, dreaming and waking states.


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