I think that Paul said what I was trying to say. God only exists if you believe in him/her/it. You cannot be MADE to believe, possibly you can be brianwashed, but that is the imposition of someone else's belief, not your own. Your own vision of the supreme 'whatever' will be different to anyone else's. Religions attempt to rectify this and have all sorts of initiations to ensure exclusivity, and fight wars about it. Still do.
Reigions have little to do with faith and belief and all to do with power. On the other hand belief in gods exist in the presence of Faith--but are not present without it. That is why I feel it presumptuous to demand proof of the existence (or not) of the divine. It can't be done. Faith is untestable, illogical and (for some) worth dying for. It's impossible to argue against that fervour--but it does not prove the truth of anything.
