Originally Posted By: Orac
Okay I think I get what you are asking is there anything that can be infinite with real world conditions, so real world conditions is the context.


We perceive our Universe as being finite. As far as I am aware there is no concrete scientific evidence to the contrary. The only concepts of infinity we can apply to the Universe, or anything in it, are mathematical infinities, or pseudo infinities which, as you say, can be of value in thought experiments.

I am quite happy to play word games in the less serious threads, but where real knowledge and understanding are involved I believe that clarity of terminology is essential.

Perception is, of course, relative. Either side may see the other as indulging in verbal fencing, and both may have a legitimate claim to being right. I suspect we may never resolve this one, but let's make sure that's not for want of trying.

There never was nothing.