I understand what you are saying Bill S he would therefor have no differences and no reason to have a start point ... I guess you invoke the god made it so argument at that point.

What I find funny is the same thing that I find with alot of people that propose Newton was right they fail to realize they therefore believe in some stupid forces that we can proove don't actually exist yet they oppose GR on the grounds that it's fictional because you cant see this 4th dimension ..... HOW THE HELL DO THEY RECONCILE THAT ..... so fictional forces are more believable than a fictional dimension?

Last edited by Orac; 10/11/11 04:28 PM.

I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.