Originally Posted By: kallog
Originally Posted By: Revlgking
But seriously, IMO, the consciousness of GOD is in us--collectively. Think of this: Any community filled with GOD-like--good-intentioned, good-inclined, etc--people is a good place--a GOD-like place--to live.

Somehow you're associating God with good. There's not many religions with good gods! Why not just call it "us collectively"? Otherwise there's no point having the word god because it's got too many meanings and nobody will understand each other.

Yes, definitions (interpretations) tend to get in the way....
Calling it "us collectively" or "oneness" is one answer. Avoiding the name overall is a path some choose. And if you pinned them down, all the members of any given church would probably have fairly different definitions, but they probably all think the others agree. An old man on a throne... an entity... or a process... there are lots of ways to conceptualize or define G0d. I wonder which definition or concept athiests reject.... I know which ones that I reject, and which direction seems to work.

...to catch up a bit....
I still think "dark" stuff has only been postulated, based on other measurements, but not itself directly measured or "sensed or perceived" in any direct manner; but whatever....

Yes, there are many metaphors--which can be interpreted in many way--but not neccessarily "correctly" deciphered or interpreted "in light of scientific evidence ...."

Referring to "Dark" stuff, that 95% of reality of which we cannot perceive or sense, is not an appeal to a "G0d of the Gaps" argument ...though 95% is a pretty big gap... but it is a reminder that the 5% of "reality" that we can perceive and measure is illusory, metaphorical, and seems to be derived from some more fundamental reality. The material universe does not seem to be solid enough to hang any rejection of other immeasurable possibilities upon.


But whether it is humanism or spiritualism... the meaning, understanding, and consequences behind the definitions are about the same, aren't they? And regardless of how or who defines what whichever way, as a species we are stuck here in this world.

Thought you might be interested in this, which sounded somewhat familiar. I just signed the Oneness Day petition:

...billed as a Civil Rights Movement for the Soul....

at: http://humanitysteam.org/
Here's #1 from the petition:
"1. That the message We Are All One, inter-related, inter-connected and inter-dependent, with God/Life/One-another, is the one spiritual message that the world has been waiting for to bring about loving and sustainable answers to humanity’s challenges. "

...and speaking of the Millennium Development Goals (humanity’s challenges)....
Biochar, as a nexus for global carbon management, can do more to realize all eight goals than any other single practice. Restoring the bio-chemo-geosphere, our planet, is a righteous mission for humanity. So far, we are not very well fulfilling our charge to be good stewards (Genesis 1:28-30).

...and speaking of oneness... understanding biochar's use and effects, as a nexus of the carbon cycle that is the basis of Life and an expression of G0d's Design & Creativity, is a special way of honoring G0d's Creation... or a special way of promoting sustainability for our species ...life-everlasting... or to become one with the Creation.

Considering our time as a species here on Earth....
The Agricultural Revolution is not yet over!

"Larding the Lean Earth" is a good book to read on the subject.

...for my comments; or for the internet's commentary:


The author quotes from the 1850's:
"Well might the Chickasaws and Choctaws question the moral right of the act by which their beautiful, park-like hunting grounds were turned over to another race, on the plea that they did not put them to the uses for which the Creator intended them.... Under their system these lands would have lasted forever; under ours, as heretofore practiced, in less than a century more the State would be reduced to the condition of the Roman Campagna." -p.203
The trail of tears keeps flowing....

Pyrolysis creates reduced carbon! ...Time for the next step in our evolutionary symbiosis with fire.