Originally Posted By: Orac
Originally Posted By: Bill S
first we have to be absolutely sure we are not talking about “nothing”.
So I am not sure how we got back to this "nothing" thing. There isn't a section of spacetime with a "nothing" concept, you want that go outside the universe.


I was trying to make sure we didn’t get back to talking about nothing.

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LOL no the Higgs is always on in any patch of spacetime it's the one field with a constant value always as you know.


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If you assume a fully QFT solution there must be a field there which is not "turned on" for the want of better words


I know the Higgs is always on, which is why I wondered how that fitted in with your saying the fields would not be “turned on”.


There never was nothing.