Originally Posted By: Bill
as far as energy is concerned in the warping of space, we need to remember that matter is energy.


True, but is, for example, the Earth losing mass by virtue of the fact that it is holding the moon in orbit?

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Does matter cause the warp in space? Or does the warp in space cause matter?


Good question. Raises the possibility that gravity is the essential element in the Universe. Perhaps, without gravity, there would be no matter or energy; perhaps even no space or time.


There never was nothing.