Originally Posted By: redewenur
Where else in nature? How about the Strong Force, mediated by gluons, that binds quarks together, Bill? That is a question rather than answer, I assure you.


I believe you get a mass deficit via good old Einsteins theory .. someone check :-) So I don't really believe this is an energy exchange without depletion even in this case which is what I think Bill is getting at.

I have expressed to you before Bill in some ways GR and the 2nd law of thermodynamics are different views of the same thing.

Given we expect GR to fail at small distances because of QM I would view the most likely places to look is around QM for violations like Red's suggestion ... and my answer is a thought not an answer too sorry :-)


I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.