Orac, I don't know the answer to the question of whether the universe is infinite or not. Right now nobody has a good answer.
I have been under the impression that science doesnt need
any basis to claim the things it claims , so we can just
expect science to do as it pleases with whatever it pleases
and we can choose to believe what it claims or not.
So if Orac wants to take infinity out of physics, then he automatically takes eternity out of physics.
I thought he wanted to take infinity out of science , not just physics.
it doesnt matter to me anyway , I dont consider myself as
belonging to the same group of believers that orac belongs to.
its really retarded to think that you can remove infinity
from science or physics and still have the ability to
describe endless division by 2 because endless division
by 2 would be infinite division.
the same goes for multiplication.
so without infinity , or forever , you dont have endless.
how will science or physics cope with that?
if anything can be done infinitely then infinity exist.
even if the job of division is passed on as an inheritance
from one parent to the next forever throughout eternity
as long as there is someone to continue the division then
the division will continue throughout infinity.
you can never divide something by 2 and have a result of nothing.
therefore infinity exist.
