Lillith wrote:
"Christians do provide many useful services to the poor and needy."

And I agreed. But a bit of intellectual integrity is required here. They wouldn't be needing to help the poor and needy if there were no poor and needy.

They've had 2,000 years to make a dent in the problem. Nowhere on the planet is there any evidence that they have succeeded.

And I agree, as I've stated before, that without religion things would be no better than they are now: But also no worse.

Blacknad quoted Stephen Carter. But Carter was wrong. 6,000,000 Jews did not die of sectarian violence. They were exterminated by Christians due to their religion. A for Carter to quote a theologian is the moral equivalent of a racist quoting the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. By definition the source of the quote is biased to a specific conclusion.

DA Morgan