dehammer wrote:
"here are ways to do it even during the draft that does not involve having to "suffer guilt and shame"."

Yeah. And if you did them well you could some day grow up to be the President, Vice President, or Secretary of Defense of the United States.

Does anyone see them expressing sincere regret?

dehammer asks:
"Is it any less altruistic to join the military to safeguard your family and friends during peace time"

No it is not. Many of those currently in Iraq joined during peace time: Probably almost all of them. Life doesn't come with guarantees

Now Sue about the child and the shark. Can you answer a simple question? Swim for the child at some personal risk or the safety of the beach?

And while you are contemplating this incredibly difficult problem of ethics, morality, personal value system, bravery, and cowardice ... tell us about how it is all about ego again.

And a few quotes, Sue, to contemplate while facing the most difficult question of your life:

?Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death.?
~ General Omar Bradley

?Firemen are going to get killed. When they join the department they face that fact. When a man becomes a fireman his greatest act of bravery has been accomplished. What he does after that is all in the line of work. They were not thinking of getting killed when they went where death lurked. They went there to put the fire out, and got killed. Firefighters do not regard themselves as heroes because they do what the business requires.?
~ Chief Edward F. Croker
Chief of Dept. NYFD

Oh and Aristotle who you dared to reference:
?Moral excellence comes about as a result of habit. We become just by doing just acts, temperate by doing temperate acts, brave by doing brave acts.?
You should read him sometime.

And here's one for you in honor of your fear of a simple question:

?The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.?
~ Meg Cabot


DA Morgan