I only wanted to discuss evolution , but I suppose that
evolution is only to be discussed between evolutionist.
But Paul, your discussion of evolution seems to be a flat denial. You don't offer any alternate explanation of the facts that are explained by evolution, except creationism or something of the sort, which doesn't explain the facts. In fact the only known support for creationism is found in Genesis, which is a religious document, not a scientific document. As such this discussion was properly moved to the NQS forum.
Your "explanation" of the experiment with which I started this thread is totally invalid, which I showed. You claim the bacteria used in the experiment were created in a laboratory. Actually they were selected in a laboratory, not created. The selection allowed their characteristics to be carefully described. This allowed a very good understanding of what could be expected from them in a long term breeding experiment. The ability to metabolize citrates was totally unexpected. And it only happened in one of 12 breeding populations and only after 30,000 generations. Under those conditions I fail to see how you can say that the ability to metabolize citrates was already built into them. If it had been then more than one of the populations should have developed the ability long before 30,000 generations. The only viable explanation is that they evolved the ability over a lengthy period of time in terms of generations. That is just what would be expected from the theory of evolution.
And so gentle readers you see how once again how creationists refuse to accept valid observations which illustrate the operation of evolution.
Bill Gill
