Originally Posted By: redewenur

Despite the red text, you and science are, once again, not in agreement. As I've told you, the so-called half-infinite ray is in fact infinite. Has it occurred to you that there's no such thing as half of infinity, regardless of the nomenclature of convenience used by geometricians?


Complete garbage you can write a mathematical proof it ... it is dead simple it was done in the 18th century.


Here let me do it in layman terms for you.


Your and Bill's infinity is zero to positive infinity ... so I give you one number -1 is that in your range .... answer NO.

Therefore your infinity in not infinity of all numbers because I can give you a number outside the set.

Cantor showed in 1891 that by that statement alone you don't have an infinite set

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor's_theorem


Your infinity is the positive infinity, a half infinity or even the infinity of positive real numbers BUT IT IS NOT INFINITY OF ALL NUMBERS ... blabber all you like it simply isn't any child can see it isn't and you can prove it.

To claim so is beyond stupid and science, mathematics and I are in complete agreement no matter what your ridiculous claim.

If you have a start point you can't have an absolute infinity of anything geometric, mathematics or in physics because something exists outside the set UNLESS you truncate it.

The only way you can make your stupid infinity conform to an absolute infinity is by truncating the set by another rule .... in your case by discarding or ruling out negative numbers.

Infinite time must by definition run from minus infinity to positive infinity seconds if you put a start in then there exists a time which must be before the start and time is therefore not infinite because a time exists outside the set. If you want to have that definition you have a positive infinite time but that is really interesting.

To show you how interesting it gets lets use you definition of infinity (0 ... positive infinity) the interesting question it poses and I want you to think on is what physics would cause that ... you just established an arrow of time with absolutely no basis for doing it ... your basis as best we can make out is you don't like negative numbers.

I bring this up because there is some interesting stuff being done on this at the moment ... I will expand the experiments if we can get over the word play garbage.

Last edited by Orac; 07/22/13 03:33 PM.

I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.