Originally Posted By: Bill

The beginning of the universe isn't paradoxical, it just isn't understood. That is a totally different thing.


Rubbish there is a paradox and it's blatantly obvious.

INFINITE TIME IS THE PARADOX.

For something to have a start time can not be infinite OR IT IS BY DEFINITION A PARADOX and you can't talk around it or do psychological mumbo jumbo like TT wants it becomes a paradox.

Perhaps show me the start point of an infinitely long line if it isn't a paradox I mean we can define a line much better and more solidly than time.

Religion does the obvious answer it truncates time, ask Rev K and he will answer there is no time before GOD.

As I said strip the problem down to its bare bones

If time is infinite and exists now and always did you have a straight and unresolvable paradox look at your wiki definition again ..... and I say again you want a start point time has to be finite and truncatable (able to be cut).

All 3 proposed solutions truncate time ... you have to there is no other option to have a start point and that was what I was trying to get you to realize.

WHY?

Well there are some interesting developments being worked on time because the above problem.

sneak peak and heads up spoiler
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/14711...rses-in-the-lab
http://phys.org/news/2013-02-space-quantum-satellite.html
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/crit...ime-guest-post/

Last edited by Orac; 07/16/13 03:40 PM.

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