And for a long time there would still need to be a seperate prison for inmates who have finished the treatment but still have to serve their time (punishment)

- Justine, Dawkins advocates no punishment - that's the whole point - it is as silly (he says), as beating your broken-down car with a branch.

Why punish someone for being broken? He says, 'simply fix them'.

The real issue here is could we dispense with punishment (or justice)? If it was a five minute procedure to fix a murderer or child molester could we really envisage being true to what Dawkins says and simply let people walk away without consequences? If you accept what Dawkins says, it makes sense - but could we live with it?

Blacknad.