Bill- I think most of us understand "what we mean when we talk about man and apes separately". Rede was pointing out that in fact we are not separate species. We too are a form of ape. There are branches to the evolutionary tree, I know, but do we not carry with us the evidence of our origin in our genetic make-up?

Since I posted this (whilst I was typing it), Mike and Bill expertly disposed of the point I was trying to make!

I have left it there as I feel strongly that we need to acknowledge that we have evolved on this planet, as have other species, and we are not the most important, just very much more noisy and opinionated than most. And more destructive, often because we feel we are different and special.

Last edited by Ellis; 06/17/11 05:25 AM. Reason: because of posts posted after mine!