Originally Posted By: redewenur
We are apes, Bill, of the family Hominidae, i.e. great apes, together with chimps, gorillas and orangutans

Well, and your family pet is a wolf who is much more closely related to the wild wolves than we are to the apes. The dog evolved from a wild predator to a human companion around 15,000 years ago. The last common ancestor of man and the living apes was something like 5 to 7 MYA. I think most everybody understands what we mean when we talk about man and apes separately.

Bill Gill

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