Originally Posted By: Bill
One of the things about the idea that there was never Nothing is that it implies there was always Something.


Exactly! I doubt that Bill Ockham actually said: "Non sunt multiplicanda entia sine necessitate"; but consider the choice between:

"There has always been something" and

" Once upon a time (sorry, there was no time) there was nothing. Suddenly, something (oops, there was no something)nothing caused something magically to appear."

Ubi necessitas sit?

Maybe there's another choice. "Orac's pink unicorn farts half a dozen universes before breakfast". I'm not a scientist, so I can go with that one, just because I like it. smile

Last edited by Bill S.; 11/17/15 01:09 AM.

There never was nothing.