those are some nice pictures , I especially like the
one below.



http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000%20BP.gif

click on the above link , save the image to your hard drive , then open it with ms paint.

then zoom in on the red box to the right.

that is where we are right now on the graph , below the 0.0 mark !


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Are we so far apart?

I still think we are in an interglacial period, but I don't see that as an absolute argument against human activity being able to influence climate in the relatively short term.

I'm told there are "fundamentalist" groups who argue that we cannot influence the climate, because it will always be what God wants it to be, but I'm a little reluctant to accept that reasoning in its entirety.


we definitely are not far apart , were just looking at
different scales of data.

I try to look at the evidence on a larger scale and that
larger scale is what turned my opinion from GW and AGW
into IA only with fluctuations of course.

we are in an ice age , and trying our best to maintain the warm
weather , but its just not possible...

all the money that is being spent on talking about it will
accomplish nothing except a lack of preparedness.

the governments are not lacking they are busy building the
underground survival facilities all across the globe.

were not invited to attend , but were paying for them.

its time for us to start our own preparations.

I can easily say in reply to the part about God , that
God gave us all a brain to think with , and its up to us
to fill the brain with our choice of data.

we can no longer just assume that all data is correct and
that is where the brains capability of logic comes into play.


I suspect that orac will see the above as an opportunity to
impress us with his favorite rant about some goat god that he
must believe exist.




3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.