Now that I have to agree with Rede, what Marosz and Paul both want us to do is actually ignore certain experiments the ones that disagree with their idea because they have fixed what they want the result to be.
Science actually doesn't care if either was to be right, all science cares about is advancing knowledge but somehow they think it actually cares enough about their plainly stupid ideas to somehow pervert science. So basically millions of scientists around the world are all conspiring against them ... we have a name for that condition
The problem they are really struggling with now, is no-one actually cares what they think so they make more and more stupid and outrageous claims. Somehow they think science is a popularity contest and they or the public get a vote
Still no-one has taken up the challenge to define what an ingredient is yet they all want to discuss using them
