ahhh , the cult must be pressuring you to find some excuse.

but that wont work , orac.

when I said in reference to the earth , I meant to a point on the earth just outside the LHC where the measurement is taken.

if an observer was standing on that point during that 1 second that the earth rotates 463 meters yet he is frozen to that point as the earth rotates , ie he sees the earth rotating beneath him then he would see the added 463 mps speed that the proton is traveling at.

you have two points of reference here the observer and the proton.

either point sees the speed as being faster than c.

and the policeman was right in his speeding estimate , the person was speeding if you include the earths rotational speed , its like this is the year 13 billion + or so but we only count 2014 of those years.

what we are discussing here is the speed of matter , if a proton sitting on top of your car it is already traveling at
463 mps if the car is motionless , because the car is traveling at 463 mps due to the earths rotation.

if your car is on the equator and facing east and you drive it east at a speed of 1 mps then the proton sitting on top of your car is traveling at 464 mps because of the added 1 mps speed that your car is traveling at.

needless to say we are only interested in the speed of the proton.

and in this discussion we are only discussing the fact that real science has already caused matter to travel beyond the speed that light travels in a vacuum.

and that science still adheres to the fake theories that claim that its not possible.



3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.