Good thread, gentlemen! Let me just comment on this quote:

This is a modern day 'god of the gaps' argument and will be shown to be completely unsupportable by what we observe, when ID'ers and such have had every single argument they make refuted...

It is god of the gaps thinking, but there will always be gaps in our knowledge. For those who are intellectually satisfied by jumping from one closed gap to the next one that remains open, ID can never be refuted.


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