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i'm not sure if things still are as they were, but it used to be that many that post to the board rarely read many of the articles on the homepage

i still read many of them and find that they may even be better than before (and they were always pretty decent...with the exception of the evolutionary jazz they so often contain)

this one was not only interesting but virtually evolution free...

thanx rusty, for an interesting and well written article

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There are many abstract, philosophical variations of the term, but cybernetics can be summed up neatly for our purposes as the study and development of communication feedback systems that control living organisms and machines. Important to cybernetics was the interfacing of a number of scientific fields during the 1940s; including electrical network theory, neuroscience and control systems. The man who first coined the phrase was the legendary mathematician Norbert Wiener who, unsurprisingly, saw the fracturing of science into specialized fields a somewhat limiting development in certain respects. "There are fields of scientific work... which have been explored from the different sides of pure mathematics, statistics, electrical engineering, and neurophysiology; in which every single notion receives a separate name from each group, and in which important work has been triplicated or quadruplicated, while still other important work is delayed by the unavailability in one field of results that may have become classical in the next field," Wiener observed, in his seminal work, Cybernetics or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine.
this article also highlights a sidetopic that has been one of my soapboxes for years...

the specialization that has become so prevalent in today's education system...is not necessarily always a good thing

scifi goes waycool cybersci

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There is no progress made in the lab that cannot be crushed out of existence by management - or reflected and amplified into disaster. Did public education work in the 1950s and 1960s? Does it work in 2006?

What changed between 1960 and 2006? (Vastly greater budgets, vastly greater failures) Practical local administration was replaced by the soft sciences, their studies, and their statistical correlations - the social advocacy of Central Control. Hetereoskedasticity!

Nails are driven into 2x4s with hammer blows. Nails are not driven into 2x4s by dialectic. Noam Chomksy is an empirical ass.


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All true Al. But something else changed too. Our generation became parents ... wholly irresponsible parents. And our generation became educators ... mostly uneducated educators.

Want to see the cause? Look in the mirror.


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thanx rusty, for an interesting and well written article

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