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GALILEO NATURAL FALL DOWN LAW

M
.....L......EARTH
m


Galileo confirmed that Mass M and mass m need the same time
for distance L


MAROSZ's PROBLEM

situation A

M
.....L......EARTH ------------> 400 km/s
m

situation B

M
.....L......EARTH ------------> 1 km/s
m


In situation A mass M and m need longer time to natural fall down
In situation B mass M and m need shorter time to natural fall down

400 km/s or 1 km/s ????

Very Important two facts !!!
1 not exist C + 1 km/s or C+ 400 km/s exist only C
2 Inverted Square Law ( signal's intensity has stron relation with distance below picture )




HOW LOOK MASS M that is moving in space ( gravitation and light = EM waves
not Exist C+ V !!! exist only C



P1
Mass M .....>>> motion......... Mass M is now here
old position
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Distance
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observer
( he feel now mass M
gravitation from point P1 BUT !! mass M is not in point 1 now)


HISTORY of Education
" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .
The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."

MAROSZ's - GALILLEO's PROBLEM IS EASY TO SOLVE ...

MR GALILEO YOUR FALL DOWN LAW IS VERY GOOD TOOL smile !!!


Earth around Sun speed and different time for natural fall down

M--L---EARTH --L---M -------> 30 km/s

We can confirm motion Mass M left and mass M right have different time for natural fall down reason = motion !!!


GALILEO and MAROSZ's problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsU4WupoaG4

Einstein's ROCKET and constant acceleration problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNBgQPF99w

FIRST STEP TO NEW PHYSICS
( mass M faster than own signal )
what if mass M will escape from own gravitation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHMYfYo9cXg


I also made few test with light ( I made very nice interferometer 24 m long arm in Home ) People who like physics
will find here many new information ( very important is electron motion )


http://old-physics.blogspot.de/

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I assume you started this thread to discuss the subject matter in the first post. As such that subject matter is incoherant and thus meaningless. Repeating it after its been criticized with nothing to back it up or to explain why the criticism is wrong is not science but something entirely different. What that is is anybody's guess right now.

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"Just the place for a Snark!" the Bellman cried,
As he landed his crew with care;
Supporting each man on the top of the tide
By a finger entwined in his hair.

"Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
That alone should encourage the crew.
Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
What I tell you three times is true."

Lewis Carroll.

That's not science either, but the Bellman has a few devotees around here!


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Doppler for light



m -------L ------M --------L---------m ----------> 30 km/s
.................(P1 )


mass M is in point 1 and giving ring 1 ( gravitation signal )
Not Exist C+ 30 km/s exist only C

ring 1 = 3D ball signal


Please evaluate how big intensity of the signal ( gravitation ) will register mass m left and mass m right
( distance L = 150 000 000 km ( mass m-L-M-L-m are moving 30 km/s respect to point P1 )

We all good know that gravitation speed is lower than light
What will be if :

m-L-M-L-m ------------------> V > than gravitation's speed ???

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Originally Posted By: Bill S.
"Just the place for a Snark!" the Bellman cried,
As he landed his crew with care;
Supporting each man on the top of the tide
By a finger entwined in his hair.

"Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
That alone should encourage the crew.
Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
What I tell you three times is true."

Lewis Carroll.

That's not science either, but the Bellman has a few devotees around here!


Hi Bill,

Does newton demonstrate awareness that other people are talking to him or is he making some sort of heroic effort to ignore the entire world?

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Dear Pmb and Bill.S

G speed < C
C - light inside vacuum



Mass M and motion ... ???


M-----------> Vx
P1

...........M-----------> Vx
P1


Mas M was in past in point P1 and started in P1 gravitation signal



EINSTEIN - ROCKET and CONSTANT ACCELERATION



Between rocket and person inside rocket exist gravitation's forces what will be if ...

if rocket will cross G speed ... ???

Galileo naturall fall dawn law ???
.... and Einsten's theory GRT ???


Can we recognize that rocket is on Planet ?
( please scroll down screen - below link )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_general_relativity


Marosz - first person who asked about motion more faster than G speed

You have very nice knowledge about OLD PHYSICS
ROCKET THAT HAS GOT CONSTANT ACCELERATION ???.

Newton ---------Einstein
low speed......huge speed


Marosz ( above we have very not natural two worlds )
physics is one where is a place for Einstein where is a place for Newton ( where is bord )

speed faster than G lower than C ? why I showed this example ?
I made only to explain :

where we have problem GRT / Newton need modif. we need add info about motion ( coordinate system motion is important - place where we are making experiments - and constant motion vector orientation ???)



m ----100 meters ----- Earth ---100 meters -----m >>>>> 30 km/s

mass m left/right not have the same condition for natural fall down
Time of the natural fall down can inform us about motion above test can be make on the Earth with huge precission mass m left will fall down longer time to Earth if we compare to mass m right
For above experiment very important is absolute distance in space that will made mass m left and right during fall down

Motion respect to what ? ...

......Earth >>>>
P1

Earth was in past in point 1 (P1 ) and started gravitation signal in point 1 mass m left and right feel not the same intesity of the signal m left is moving opposite to gravitation wave / mass m right escape from gravitation vave

Distance and Wave Intensity ???

where the signal started ? where will be registere ?


:):):)



more problems and tests ( Poland 2012)
http://old-physics.blogspot.de/






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Originally Posted By: newton
Dear Pmb and Bill.S


What? Why address either of us and expect us to listen or respond to you when you have refused to listen anything anybody else here has said to you? Since I came here you've been posting the same exact junk in each and every post, all of which we've told you is unrelated to each other and as such is all just plain nonsense.

If you want to talk to us seriously then I suggest that you pick up a physics textbook and start reading it. We'll help you along the way. Work out the problems the text assigns you so that you'll have a solid working understanding of the subject. Until then we have nothing to say to you since you've proven that you refuse to listen.


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