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#43585 05/13/12 04:41 PM
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Genetically Modified Food is still not allowed to be grown here in the UK.
However, it is allowed to be imported provided it is stated to be GM Modified etc. on the packaging.

Small scale crop testing of GM planted seeds etc were either
grown in a small field well away from other crops, or grown under plastic covers.

Rothamstead Agricultural Research Establishment has been
( http://www.rothamsted.ac.uk/index.php )
granted permission to conduct open air trials of wheat, genetically modified to be resistant to aphids, to be planted in spring 2012 and 2013.
The crop is modified to secrete a hormonal chemical compound which acts an alarm signal to keep aphids away.....and attracts aphid predators to the crop.

> Aphid predators,? ladybirds ? and spiders ? and? They would be more noticable, ground up with our flour, than aphids.! <

Anyway a lot of people are upset and are going to take some sort of action on 27th of this month.
Their serious concerns are listed below

The genetic modification has been undertaken using two chemically synthesised genes which, the application says, are “not found naturally.” The application states they are, respectively, “similar to that found in peppermint…” and have, ” most similarity to [one] from a cow…” (1a). This is the first synthetic copy of an animal gene used in a GM trial. The scientists do not know whether the plants will produce the desired result and trialling them in the open air carries huge risks of Cross-contamination
•Cross-pollination of neighbouring crops or related wild species.
•Seed spilt at harvest that germinates and contaminates later crops grown in the field.
•Seed spilt around fields and on verges during transport after harvest.
•Mixing of GM and non-GM crops in storage or during distribution. Grain stores or equipment may not be cleaned out properly, or mistakes may be made by operators leading to mixing or errors in labelling.
The application for the trial notes the possibility of seeds being carried off site by wild birds and small mammals, and pollen being carried away by the wind (paragraph 6 in Part A of the application). GM traits from oilseed rape have already cross contaminated with a common weed during the Farm Scale Evaluations from 2000-2003. (Centre for Ecology and Hydrology 2005) Once this trait is released into the open there is no way to get it back.

The UK public have objected to GM soya (a largely invisible ingredient of processed foods) from the late 90s onwards, so they are unlikely to want to eat bread made with GM wheat given the importance of bread in the UK diet. GM ingredient bans remain in place by all supermarkets and UK food stores 14 years after the first ban by Iceland.
Recent experiments in Canada found the GM Bt toxin in the blood and umbilical cords of 90% of pregnant women tested.
(could that be botulin as per Botox used by the cosmetic industry? Anyone know?)

Monsanto abandoned GM wheat research in the EU in 2004 (BBC 2004). More recently sources in Canada (Canadian National Research Council 2011) and Australia (ABC 2011) report that there is significant opposition to restarting GM wheat development. The countries they export to have said they won’t buy it and farmers are afraid that they will lose their industry

If you wish to read more you will have to access the URL
I have found ...below.


http://taketheflourback.org/the-wheat-trial/


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similar to that found in peppermint…


they should just plant peppermint alongside the wheat
instead of genetically modifying the wheat with peppermint dna.

there are several natural plants that will keep aphids out of a garden.

http://toadstoolponds.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/why-plant-marigolds-in-your-vegetable-garden/



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they should just plant peppermint alongside the wheat


Too much common sense and not enough potential to make someone a lot of money.


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Too much common sense and not enough potential to make someone a lot of money


the problem with that is that you cant eat silver and gold
or dollars and cents.

I've often wondered if the genetically modified foods are in
fact the way that they intend to wipe out most of the earths population , it would be so easy to accomplish given that farmers must buy their seeds in order to grow any food.

and if something goes wrong with their ability to supply seeds to farmers , the world starves.

isnt it stupid to introduce something so dangerous at a time that the worlds gasoline supplies are depleting.

because it will take fuel to deliver the seeds.


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and farmers are afraid that they will lose their industry


thats hitting the nail on the head and sinking it with one swift hit.

loosing their industry is most likely what this gm foods is all about , taking the farming industry away from the established farmers and replacing them with industrial farming.

but the dangers of doing this is that industrial farming focuses mostly on what crops will produce the most money
so the variations of crops will be depleted , then as ireland
found out in the past , when you fail to diversify the potato crop and your chosen potato crop fails , you starve.



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Bt stands for Bacillus thuringensis, a naturally occurring bacterium that exudes a toxin that affects insects and kills them. No relation to Botulinum toxin at all. You can get Bacillus thuringensis spores at some garden supply stores and on the net. It works against many insects. I'm not sure of the mechanism of action, I seem to remember it paralyzes their throat muscles so they can't swallow. It is regarded as safe for children and pets. Doesn't affect animals or human beings.


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Originally Posted By: Amaranth Rose II
Bt stands for Bacillus thuringensis, a naturally occurring bacterium that exudes a toxin that affects insects and kills them. No relation to Botulinum toxin at all. You can get Bacillus thuringensis spores at some garden supply stores and on the net. It works against many insects. I'm not sure of the mechanism of action, I seem to remember it paralyzes their throat muscles so they can't swallow. It is regarded as safe for children and pets. Doesn't affect animals or human beings.


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Thank you so much for your Bacillus thuringensis reply, Amaranth.
I can always rely upon you for your superior Medical knowledge, thanks.


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You're welcome anytime, Mike. Glad to be of service.


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