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Im not going to write an article here about this , I just believe that the recent decrease in volcanic activity is due in part by the melting of artic ice.

It just makes so much sence.

As the ice melts there is a coresponding decrease in the pressure that the ice was supplying to the earth under the melting ice.

of course the water from the ice is still here on the earth
pressing down it is just more evenly spread around.

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your not serious are you?

and really what decrease?

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Originally Posted By: paul
I just believe that the recent decrease in volcanic activity is due in part by the melting of artic ice.

Is there any evidence to support either of those beliefs, Paul?

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As the ice melts there is a coresponding decrease in the pressure that the ice was supplying to the earth under the melting ice.

True. A redistribution of ice cover can also cause changes in the elevation of the underlying land mass - the south coast of England has been sinking back into the sea since the last ice age, while the north coast of Scotland has been rising.

Volcanic activity, in general, is related not to any particular pressure in a given crustal zone, but by radioactivity in the rocks below the crust...

(1) Radioactivity in Earth's core and mantle produces heat
(2) Heat causes rock plasticity and produces magma
(3) Plasticity allows convection
(4) Convection causes tectonic activity
(5) Fissures caused by tectonic activity provide escape routes for pressurised magma.

Which makes the study of the case of Iceland quite interesting.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3671850.ece

"So much ice in Iceland has melted in the past century that the pressure on the land beneath has lessened, which allows more of the rock deep in the ground to turn to magma. Until the ice melted, the pressure was so intense that the rock remained solid."

But that's contrary to your idea.


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Its OK JRW
we will forget all about physics in your case , all right !!



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Until the ice melted, the pressure was so intense that the rock remained solid."


exactly !! this is depressurization underneath a subduction zone that is exposed to the surface.

the pressure was so intense that the rock remained solid , until the ice melted.
under the sea the same thing occurs along subduction zones as is occurring on land (visibly) in iceland.

the (pressure and temperature) of the earths magma are proportionate , the ice melts - the pressure of the magma goes down - the temperature of the magma goes down - magma is a liquid so the reduced pressure and temperature will eventually effect all of the earths (liquid) magma.

I would like to point this out , magma gives off its heat when new magma is formed , therefore the overall heat of the magma is reduced.

the result should be...

temporary Global cooling
and
temporary reduction in volcanic activity.

temporary until the ice melts.

this is why the name of this topic is

Decrease in volcanic activity = depressurization

or

Decrease in volcanic activity is due to the depressurization of the earths magma because of the melting ice caps.

the forum wouldnt allow for a longer topic name.










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Correction

where I wrote subduction zone above
should have been
the mid atlantic ridge

The plate boundary between the American and Eurasian tectonic plates crosses Iceland from
south to North and the spreading process can be directly measured and observed on land.



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Originally Posted By: paul
Decrease in volcanic activity is due to the depressurization of the earths magma because of the melting ice caps.

What you're discussing is the very localised effect of melting ice that happens to be occurring directly above an active zone. It's an interesting phenomenon, but that's all. It has nothing to do with the overall global level of volcanic activity. What has everything to do with it is the heat generated by radioactivity - mainly of uranium 238 and thorium 232, I think you'll find. Since the relevant isotopes each have a halflife of billions of years, there would seem to be little prospect of a sustained remission of volcanic activity during the age of homo sapiens.

As for temporary remission due to melting ice, I remind you that it would seem from your link to the list of links that the reverse is true in Iceland:

"Increase in volcanic activity is linked to ice melted by global warming" (www.timesonline.co.uk, as above)

And I'm sure it's occurred to you that the total mass/pressure of ice/water around the world remains constant.


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of the link to the links I posted the first link is dated back to 2006 and is not relevant.

should you have read the second link which is current you can
read the alert levels.

scroll down to the summer months of 2008
then to the summer months of 2007
for an idea of the increase in volcanic activity durring the summer months.

most recent USGS alerts you might have noticed the RECENT volcanic activity decreases

ie..
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Yellowstone Lake Earthquake Swarm Summary through 5 January 2009, seismic activity has markedly decreased.



the third link

and click on the dec 2008 link !!

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The images revealed temperatures as hot as 530 degrees Celsius on the N side of the dome and temperatures near 80 degrees Celsius on the W side. Temperatures had declined compared to thermal images taken in October 2008.



the fourth link is of the above web site

the fifth link


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Over the past month, seismic activity at Okmok volcano has continued to decrease and is now at or very near pre-eruption levels.


followed by links to other information.


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What you're discussing is the very localised effect of melting ice that happens to be occurring directly above an active zone.


Im not disscussing local effects , you brought up iceland
and the effects of melting ice on iceland.
none the less if magma expands into rock then a portion of the magmas heat is given up as the magma expands , this release of heat lowers ( through heat transfer ) the surrounding magmas heat , and eventually decreases the temperature of the earths magma.

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It's an interesting phenomenon, but that's all. It has nothing to do with the overall global level of volcanic activity.


Thats knid of like tossing a rock into a swimming pool , then saying , oh look the rock made a wave that effected the water just under the rock.

when the entire surface of the pool was effected by the wave.

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What has everything to do with it is the heat generated by radioactivity


do you think that the pressure decrease under the earths ice
caps are like the rock thrown into the swimming pool?

or would you think that the decrease in pressure reaches all the way to the earths core -- where the heat is generated-?

and does pressure cause heat?
expecially if the heat is due to the friction between the faster spinning core and the slower spinning magma !!!

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And I'm sure it's occurred to you that the total mass/pressure of ice/water around the world remains constant.


yes ... IF THE EARTH WERE A LIQUID ...

but it happens that the earth is surrounded by crust.

and the crust is currently supporting and soaking up a whole lot of water that normaly would be in the oceans.

surely you can understand that !




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As for temporary remission due to melting ice, I remind you that it would seem from your link to the list of links that the reverse is true in Iceland:

"Increase in volcanic activity is linked to ice melted by global warming" (www.timesonline.co.uk, as above)



the link you referenced is not relevant to this topic as it is dated back in april 2008 and 26 links down I might add !!!!!!!

however it does show what happens when ice melts.

and it shows what happens under the earths crust durring depressurization as the ice caps melt.

all in all it was a good link that described a current effect of depressurization.





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Originally Posted By: paul
surely you can understand that !

Okay, Paul, I have no intention pursuing that kind of dialogue. Thanks anyway, it has been fascinating.


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