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#12334 - 01/18/06 04:47 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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DKV, "Life itself wants to remain immortal"

Rep: Good one. Still open to discussion, though.
Does life as a whole desire anything? I agree life as a whole tends toward immortality.
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#12335 - 01/18/06 07:01 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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So does the ocean. Does that make it a sentient conscious entity? Not a good one ... meaningless drivel. Life is NOT a thing.
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#12336 - 01/19/06 04:35 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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After a long time I heard Morgan say something really interesting. Life is also an existence of Desire. If you have a scenario where something tends to model itself as the desire then without exaggerating it is alive. Yesterday I heard an interview of Sir Roger Penrose on BBC.BBC finally asked him is there any God? I wished I was there to help him handle that question but you see I have my own limitations:-)) Anyways the question of conciousness is still alive and will remain alive till we do not accept the existence of Nature and Supreme Conciousness.

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#12337 - 01/19/06 05:19 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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dvk again said something par for the course: "Life is also an existence of Desire."

Every fungus, every amedboe, every jellyfish, every diatom, every yeast cell ... a seething blob of desire.

Have you considered writing for a porno magazine?
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#12338 - 01/19/06 03:04 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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I think he was using the term desire as in motivation.
I think that's the IE vs evolution debate.
Does life currently have motivation?
Or was there only the original movement at the Big Bang? And life is just the ripple effect.
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#12339 - 01/19/06 06:59 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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I could see a rock at a certain angle and spend my whole life speculating on the position of that rock, the shape, the colour, I could ask why at this time in that space is that rock the way it is - why not a little to the left, why not a slightly darker shade? I could speculate on the origin of the rock, or I speculate on the origin of myself, or on the origin of the sun and clouds behind that rock, and at night I could speculate on the origins of the stars cascading across the sky. What ever aspect of nature I speculate on, one day, if I am smart, I will realise that I am in-fact speculating on only one thing, and that is nature its self.


*My point if you didn't get it = in my opinion, EVERYTHING, complicated or not, is just another aspect of nature and natural laws. Yes -even life, even you.

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#12340 - 01/19/06 07:52 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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Justine asks:
"Does life currently have motivation?"

Life as an entity does not exist. It has not motivation, no lust, no love, no desire, it is just a word in a language used to describe something we can't even unequivocably define.
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#12341 - 01/19/06 10:59 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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Life has about as much motivation as a oxygen atom has to bond with another oxygen atom.

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#12342 - 01/23/06 08:04 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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dkv has a very unique and different perception and his theory is worth giving a thought.

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#12343 - 01/23/06 05:55 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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pfft!

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#12344 - 01/24/06 01:46 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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JohnK ... I've thought about dvk's unique and different perception. Gave it all the thought it was worthy of receiving ... just like the altered perceptions of my contemporaries back in the 60s. Ooh look ... pretty colours.
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#12345 - 01/24/06 08:04 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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"... to deny the next Technological Fact."

Please see a therapist. Your have again crossed the line into irrationality.
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#12346 - 01/24/06 09:10 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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"Every power has this habit and I dont blame them for this. But after knowing so much it will be very sad for our Scientists (whos gave us so much ) to deny the next Technological Fact."

Let's all try to help dkv instead of continuously telling him to seek help. He is obviously not taking our advice...

dkv,
How can a power have a habit?

Scientists discover technological facts, why would scientists deny the next technological fact?

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#12347 - 01/24/06 09:38 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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Help him how? And I am serious. He does not seem to realize that much of what he writes is irrational.
The help he needs can be best given by a licensed therapist that can read through these threads and see what is so obvious. Words without a subject. Paragraph without content. Phrases without meaning.

If you have a better idea ... some way to convince him to seek the help he needs ... I'd like to hear it.
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#12348 - 01/25/06 04:09 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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Everbody has his own perception and if one has a a different one and you dont agree then you should tell it upfront or prove it wrong or you can simply ignore replying to that. DA Morgan and Rob should not forget that he should respect other's opinions. Saying such things that "please see a therapist" can be annoying. Things written by dkv are, for no reasons, taken personally.

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#12349 - 01/25/06 04:36 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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"Things written by dkv are, for no reasons, taken personally."

Not personally. May I remind you that this is a Science discussion forum? DKV has made numerous posts that lack any basis in Science and show a very poor level of comprehension of English grammar and syntax. The umbrage taken is to the content, not the poster. In addition to breaking the rules of the forum, DKV now is engaged in importing his own private cheering section; first it was his girlfriend and now you. If you can't see how you are being used by him, you're as dim as he is. If and when one of DKV's comments is (a) on-topic and (b) relevant to Science I will let them stand. I refer you to the sign at the door, under the heading "Science Discussion Forum".

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#12350 - 01/25/06 08:52 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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Wow !! So much of trouble is not needed Rose.
Point the concpets which you think are unscientific and we will have a debate.
As far girl friend part is concerned I guess it was written in the context of Evolution.
Whatever was deleted,was deleted without any arguments in favour or in opposition.
The English argument has its limitations as what I define as good literature moves little beyond grammar.
Some noble souls dont believe in full stops.
I am waiting to hear where I went wrong.

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#12351 - 01/25/06 08:59 AM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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"Some noble souls dont believe in full stops."

How funny is this?! smile

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#12352 - 01/25/06 12:14 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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May i clearify that it was a suggestion, not to you Rose, that we can have a healthy discussion without making rude comments on anybody.
On same lines, i have to tell you that whether you agree or not, there are replies that are direct comment on the poster. and also I am afraid to tell you that you failed to delete such comments if only relevent and on topic comments have to kept in here.
But, "DKV now is engaged in importing his own private cheering section"
shows how personally you too have taken it!
And, please explain me whether it is neccessary to have a good grammer and syntax knowledge etc to join this forum?
I am just another member whose interest is in physics and i find dkv's theory interesting if not correct. Please let us not make it an issue.

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#12353 - 01/25/06 01:15 PM Re: Adam, Eve and Me
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"please explain me whether it is neccessary to have a good grammer and syntax knowledge etc to join this forum?"

Well JohnK!! I,, believe do?! this that your QUEstion AnswerS?!!?!

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