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why wouldn’t you expect “the changes in magnitude of gravity and velocity” would affect all materials proportionally?

I can’t wrestle with your logic Paul, since there is no foundation upon which to stand.


my foundation = an understanding of physics and in this case
the motion of objects and the reactions of objects in motion
when an object is subjected to external forces.

which is the best foundation to stand on ( in this particular case ) !!!

you do agree that all materials are affected by
gravity and velocity so lets start there.

lets look at a single atom with a single electron.

1) the atom as a whole has a velocity in a direction at any
time.

2) the electron has a velocity as it orbits the
center of its atom at any time.

as we are looking at the atom as a whole it is moving
horizontally in front of our eyes from left to right.
and the orbit of the electron is on the same plane
as the atoms direction.
so that as you look at the electron it it appears to move
from left to right then from right to left
as it orbits.

3) atoms are affected by gravity.

4) electrons are affected by gravity.

the atom as a whole has a velocity of .1 meters per second.

the electron has a angular velocity of the speed of light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_velocity

we now add gravity into the picture.

the gravity source is directly below our feet and is pulling
on both the nucleus of the atom and the electron.

the nucleus of the atom has an amount of momentum that is
directed from left to right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

the electron of the atom has an amount of angular momentum
as it orbits the nucleus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentum

the force required to cause a desired amount of change to
the velocity of the nucleus and the force required
to cause the same amount of change to the angular velocity
of the electron is different.

this is due to the differences in momentum between the nucleus
and the electron.

when the nucleus begins to move downwards due to the external
gravity force the electron will not move downwards at the same rate of speed as the nucleus.

this causes the electron to shift its orbital plane depending
on its location in its orbit about the nucleus.

and results in a wobbling of the atom as a whole as the atom
moves downward due to gravity.

this wobbling sets up an externally driven resonance
in the atom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance

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In physics, resonance describes when a vibrating system or external force drives another system to oscillate with greater amplitude at a specific preferential frequency.


therefore since all materials have a specific
frequency then all materials will experience
a different change in resonance when exposed
to external forces due to gravity and velocity.


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It’s nice to see however, that you can acknowledge some "amount of time dilation" does occur, and that

...some "amount of time dilation" occurs, not only to cesium atoms,
but also that “all other materials would experience ...time dilation.”


still Im not going to call these changes "time dilation"

my reasoning on this is that the true time would be the
number of cycles that a cesium atom that is not exposed to
any external stresses from gravity or velocity would undergo.

this says that the clocks that were slowed down on the
satellites due to the external forces that they are exposed
to in their orbit around the earth would have in fact been
closer to true time than the clocks that are located on the earth
if they were not slowed down.

ie ... all atomic clocks on the earth have been physically
slowed down because of the gravity and velocity that affects
the cesium in the clocks that are located on the earth.

this also says that any atomic clock that depends on the
decay of a material that is located on any planet or moon
or anywhere in the cosmos that does not share the same exact magnitude
of external forces due to gravity and velocity...etc
as an identical atomic clock located on the earth
will not keep the same time.

the true time itself is not dilated.

the definition of the word "dilated" is to make larger
or to expand.

therefore the natural frequency of a cesium atom that
is not exposed to external forces such as gravity and velocity
is not made larger nor does it expand.

so the true time does not dilate.

but all of the cesium in all of the atomic clocks located on
the earth are physically affected by the magnitude of gravity and velocity
that they are exposed to because they are located on the earth.

so all of the atomic clocks on the earth were designed to
account for or utilize the dilated constricted ( shorter number ) of cycles that
occur in a cesium atom located on the earths surface.

so when they slowed the atomic clocks down on the GPS
satellites they were simply making a correction to bring
the atomic clocks on the satellites closer to earth time
when they achieved earth orbit.

only because the cesium in the atomic clocks on the satellites
will be exposed to different magnitudes of gravity and velocity
than they would be exposed to if they were going to be
located on the surface of the earth.

if we are going to continue to use the decay of a material
as our time standard then we need to realize that we need to
understand that a measurement of true time using the decay of a material
can only exist in an environment where there are no external forces felt
by the decaying material and the measurement equipment itself would prevent
a measurement of true time because the equipment itself would cause a false
measurement.

so for now ( 2016 ) what we call time is only related to the
frequency of a cesium atom and that is where the relationship stops.

time is simply a word that we use to describe the number
of changes in energy levels that a cesium atom undergoes during a period
that we call a single second.

so for today (2016) time to us can be examined as a physical occurence of a physical object.

and just because we can manipulate the frequency of the cesium used in an
atomic clock does not mean that we can manipulate any of the other material
that the atomic clock is constructed from simply by manipulating the
frequency of the cesium alone.




3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.