All right, guys, you're not contributing anything to the conversation topic. Cut the slanging match or I'll edit more. No more name calling or religious insults. If you haven't something on topic to say, don't say anything at all. As Ben Franklin said, "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

If you don't care for reality, just wait a while; another will be along shortly. --A Rose