bill

I did find this in favor of not using alpha lipoic acid in rats however.

100mg/kg !!!!!!!!!!!

wow , so a 180 lb man would be given a dose of 8000 mg/day !!!
when a average dose is apx 400 mg a day in clinical test...

lets just drink 800 glasses of water each day vs 8 a day
to see if these test could show some favorable results in favor of big pharma.

this way it could be concluded that water is dangerous to
our health and that we should buy the newly manufactured big pharma synthetic version of water.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19616616

Quote:
Lipoic acid is a disulfhydryl-containing compound used in clinical medicine and in experimental models as an antioxidant. We developed a stable isotope dilution capillary gas chromatography/mass spectrometry assay for lipoic acid. We assayed a panel of the metabolites of transmethylation and transsulfuration 30 min after injecting 100 mg/kg lipoic acid in a rat model. Lipoic acid values rose 1000-fold in serum and 10-fold in liver. A methylated metabolite of lipoic acid was also detected but not quantitated. Lipoic acid injection caused a massive increase in serum S-adenosylhomocysteine and marked depletion of liver S-adenosylmethionine. Serum total cysteine was depleted but liver cysteine and glutathione were maintained. Serum total homocysteine doubled, with increases also in cystathionine, N,N-dimethylglycine, and alpha-aminobutyric acid. In contrast, after injection of 2-mercaptoethane sulfonic acid, serum total cysteine and homocysteine were markedly depleted and there were no effects on serum S-adenosylmethionine or S-adenosylhomocysteine. We conclude that large doses of lipoic acid displace sulfhydryls from binding sites, resulting in depletion of serum cysteine, but also pose a methylation burden with severe depletion of liver S-adenosylmethionine and massive release of S-adenosylhomocysteine. These changes may have previously unrecognized deleterious effects that should be investigated in both human disease and experimental models.


note: please dont drink 800 glasses of water a day.

you would die like the rat did.



3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.