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a real work of art... very clever.


I agree ... and add Extremely clever for an artist !!!
now what of inventors who study gravity and apply that to
inventions... there just might be several out there in the
woods or in their workshops that have done with gravity as
finsrud has and applied their knowlege to energy production as the main subject vs art.

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in a similar fashion the earth has been orbiting the sun for a long long time


Yes gravity makes the world go round , and everything in this universe included...

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perhaps you can call that perpetual motion as well?


Well as far as I would need to call anything , anything ...YES

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the finsrud will eventually stop moving...


Yes ... and so will the earth and everything else !!!

I'll bet you that the finsrud will be running long after the oil is gone..even long after we can no longer use the energy from our sun , or at least another version of it , because at some point in time the friction that the finsrud produces will eventually wear down the tracks that the ball rolls on , year after year after year and now moving into the second decade of perpetual motion.

P.S. did you invent this

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perpetual motion(perfect transfer of energy in a system, with no losses)


or did you find it somewhere on the internet?

if so I would like to read the rest of the story.

Also according to your deffinition of perputual motion and the application of your deffinition.

if there is no energy input required to run the finsrud and there
is obviously heat being produced by the steel ball rolling on the tracks and the many moving parts of the finsrud , then please tell me / us where does the energy come from that produces this heat?

I dont expect an answer to my questions above as I have learned not to expect anything in the form of answers from this forums members , at least not in this particular subject matter.

so you may now repeat several other people or yourself it really doesnt matter to me.

bottom line
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cannot yield 'free energy


then there is no friction between the ball and the tracks !!!!
and there is no friction between the many moving parts of the finsrud !!!

even actual smart people agree that energy in the form of heat due to friction is being produced.

this cannot be denied.

unless of course you listen to people who deny it.

and then you are wrong if you agree or claim to agree.

as I said earlier
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some people honestly believe that they are smart?
some people honestly are smart?
some people just desire to look smart to other people
who share their level of inteligence , no matter what the cost.


which of the above describes your inteligence?

hint: a piece of paper will not help you , when the time comes to prove your inteligence.

Last edited by paul; 04/16/08 04:06 AM.

3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.