Feo5: "Fahrenheit 9/11" wins Palme D'or in Cannes
Posted by Feo Amante on May 27, 2004 at 22:54
(24.30.117.13)Re: Feo3: "Fahrenheit 9/11" wins Palme D'or in Cannes (Cure for Gravity)
Hey Cure,
I’m never one to believe without question, so being naturally curious, I decided to check into the Bush-Nazi connection myself. Like they say on this board, when in doubt, google it, right?
So what does google reveal under the search words
Bush family Nazi
?(I figured that would give me the most accurate returns).
This is what comes back:
TAKE BACK THE MEDIA
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.htmlA seriously crackpot conspiracy website comes in at #1. Nice flash propaganda. Its funny how those who decry propaganda the loudest are often the ones who enjoy using it the most.
Coming in at #2 and #3 is
RENSE.COM
http://www.rense.com/general26/dutch.htm
http://www.rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htmThe first has an article written ostensibly by attorney John Loftus, who was "U.S. Department of Justice Nazi War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the Jews, both of which have extensive material on the Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection."
I say "ostensibly" for three reasons.
1. Because there was no CIA during the time of World War II and the Nazis.2. Because the article in question comes entirely from a single website called
tetrahedron.org
http://www.tetrahedron.orgA quick look at their site reveals the following:
A crackpot website that touts healing through the wisdom of ancient scripture and a paranoid distrust of vaccines.
3. The second article on their site comes from Astrid Barnett who was writing for a Russian website called iraqwar.ru. Gee! A Russian website that says bad things about an American President!
Presumably there were Nazis even after WWII, but to say that the CIA worked hand in glove with them is to say that the CIA isn't run by a Zionist conspiracy. I only mention this because later sites which subscribe to the Bush-Hitler conspiracy also say that the CIA and all other law enforcement branches are controlled by Israel and the world dominating Zionist state. Keep in mind that I'll only list the first page on google and, the higher the ranking means the more people are reading these. When you read these pages, see if YOU can't see where moveon.org and many others are getting their "facts".
Coming in at #4
It's Webster G. Tarpley! You know him? He’s a long time supporter of, and part of, Lyndon LaRouche’s inner circle for the past twenty years. He’s also the economist who believes that insights into the world of finance can be found in the Bible, the Koran, and even the teachings of Confucius!
http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm
Tarpley co-wrote the book GEORGE BUSH: The unauthorized biography, with Anton Chaitkin in the 1980s. Lyndon LaRouche was yapping about it ever since Bush got pegged to be Reagan’s vice-president. If you don’t want to buy the book, no problem, the entire thing is up at Tarpley’s website. Just go to
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htmChaitkin's father, Jacob Chaitkin worked for years against the Harriman family of which Prescott Bush, G.H.W. Bush's father, was a son-in-law and employee.
Just because Anton may have an axe to grind doesn't make him wrong. At least they present an enormous amount of substantiation. Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to verify since most of it is in letters and other documents that belong directly to Anton or quotes that only Anton would know or where presumably told to him by his father and at any rate is not available for perusal. I'll just have to take his word that it says what he says it says.
Tarpley wrote the book that all other Bush-Nazi connection sites use. They all say pretty much the same thing and use the same quotes and timelines as Tarpley. They don’t all quote him because many of them are quoting second hand lazier from other websites, who are quoting other websites, but eventually all roads lead back to two groups. Tarpley and Chaitkin, and David Icke.
In some places, Tarpley refers to others online as if they are some kind of witness. But when you go there, they all reference right back to Tarpley. So basically Tarpley is referencing names of people who read his and Chaitkin’s stuff and believe it.
Who is David Icke to write such information on Bush? He is a former Soccer Player who now believes that the Bush families are really alien lizards from another galaxy. He believes the same about many world leaders.
http://www.davidicke.com
David Icke believes that the early 1980s television show, V, was a desperate attempt by someone in the media to reveal “the truth”. That’s why it wasn’t popular. That’s why it had to be cancelled after only one season. He also believes that the movie THE MATRIX was another attempt to reveal the truth. That’s why it WAS so popular! Because it touched the inner truth that exists within all of us. The truth we all really know deep inside.#5
Remember John.com
http://www.rememberjohn.com/Nazis.html
The article is by Carla Binion. Carla has made a name for herself ever since Bush ran against Gore in 2000. She writes for radical left wing journals and enjoys saying so. You can find her numerous opinions at
a. www.ratical.org - run by David T. Ratcliffe, who believes that everything will be much better if we only concentrate on this age of koyaanisqatsi. What that word means to the Hopi Indians is one thing. This is what it means to David
http://www.ratical.org/koya.htmlb. http://www.dedanaan.com/, dedicated to Celtic & Faery Studies, this website also hosts Carla’s personal website/blog, SILENT LUCIDITY, Weblog of the Evil Queen, appears to be dedicated to her spiritual belief in astrology and political belief in moveon.org. Oh, and her wanting the U.S. out of Iraq.
c. http://www.onlinejournal.com/, A liberal website and proud of it. The most credible of the bunch. Unfortunately Carla’s posts there are bereft of references or substantiation. Her quoting of certain books – which were later discredited – is her only focal point. The unfortunate part is that she takes them at face value and never seems to think critically.
d. Back to rememberjohn.com. This website where Carla writes makes the speculation that the World Trade Center was destroyed through the machinations of George Bush. Why?
Because John O’Neill, former FBI Deputy Director who resigned his post under Bush, was working at the WTC during the moment of 9/11 and died as a result of it. Ahem. Occam’s Razor there.#6
Here In Reality
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html, at this website, it’s a 24 hour, 7 day a week Bush bash, which will also explain to you why corporations are evil. Like the rest of these websites, there is no credible documentation, you just have to take their word.Oh, and America is imperialist of course. Only socialism respects human rights. Ahem again.
#7
A dead link to http://www.newscoast.com/headlinesstory2.cfm?ID=35115#8
T-upbiosystems.com
http://www.tupbiosystems.com/articles/bush_nazi.html
Again, no credible documentation. If you follow the references, they all reference back to rense, tarpley, etc. Which in turn reference right back to t-upbio and so on. They all use each others opinions to justify their own but no one is actually using any historical references. Sheesh.
T-upbiosystems.com hawks “treatments” that claim to get you “Healthy through energy” According to the website, their diet, called THE SHOCK DIET “IS THE ONLY DEFENCE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL AND BIO-CHEMICAL TERROR IN FOOD THAT YOU HAVE”#9
The Thresher
http://www.thethresher.com/indiscreet.html, is by Phil Legerre and neither demonizes, or absolves the Bush family or Bush Jr. loaded with direct references, quotes to credible resources, and historical perspective instead of wild eyed theory and opinion, it is curious why no one who would seem to really care about this issue would take this seemingly more rational approach to it. Phil is not listed as a reference to any of the crackpots.theThresher.com appears to slightly lean toward the right, yet they reign in their crazed speculation, admit to unknowns and possibilities, and even provide evidence as to why the craziest accusations just might have, if not merit, at least provide reasonable doubt based upon historical perspectives. So nothing is actually proven. Like everyone else, much of their source comes from tarpley and co.
#10
And finally, the last page on the first page of a google search. Of course there are more pages, but I’m not going to be ridiculous about this.
Lpdallas.org
http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm, is run by Richard N. Draheim, Jr., and is all opinion, all fluff, attempts at humor, and no beef.The homepage proclaims itself the Libertarian Party of Dallas County. It’s no wonder that the Libertarians, as a party, can’t get anywhere after all of these decades.
So there you have it. Of the ten most popular and most read pages that google can find on the Bush-Hitler connection, the majority of them are idiots that refuse to justify their accusations. “A lie told often enough…”
The conspiracy seems senseless on the surface as well: The Bush families are a bunch of white supremacist supporting fascists so they…proudly mix their blood line with other races???
It should also be noted that both Bush presidents had far more representatives of ethnic minority groups in one term than Clinton had in his eight years in office. I’m only pointing this out because it doesn’t seem like the actions of white supremacist supporters to give minorities such power and command over white folks.
So Tarpley, Chaitkin, and LaRouche appear to be the only sources for this Bush-Hitler conspiracy. The Bush-Nazi-Hitler conspiracy is not fact, just a bunch of wind blown from well known crackpots. In a perverted way, such witless yapping actually benefits Bush, since most well informed reasonable people would not trust such ravings. The one lone page that exposed Bush in a reasonable manner, ranks #9 on the list. That is not the one that moveon.org, bushwatch, and the ilk care to reference.
Fortunately, because this IS a science site, anyone who can offer contradictory evidence is more than welcome. I’m keeping an open mind here, I’m just not open to LaRouche and his flunkies.