[CALBS = Contains a little bit o'science]

Didn’t want this thread to get lost, unless Daniel prefers it to :

Down below, under -- Re: I think anyman's got the match point here...

Daniel wrote:

Posted by DA Morgan on Jun 21, 2002 at 13:17

There is nothing inherently atheistic about evolution theory.,

And the world has millions of Jews, Christians, Moslems, and Buddhists that support that point of view to prove it.

The odd man out here ... is you. Are you now telling my minister, ordained in a mainstream Protestant church, and most of his congregation that they are all atheists? I've no doubt a few thousand people would be profoundly amazed. Well that and seriously question your sanity.

....then I responded:

Posted by Sparrow on Jun 22, 2002 at 23:23

The odd man out here ... is you. Are you now telling my minister, ordained in a mainstream Protestant church, and most of his congregation that they are all atheists? I've no doubt a few thousand people would be profoundly amazed. Well that and seriously question your sanity.

If your supposed "mainstream" Protestant Church really exists (along with your Rabbi friend), and they truly espouse a "Creative Evolution," and yet a foundational belief in the authority and accuracy of Scripture, then they, not me, have proven themslves deluded by their teaching. I'm sure that any such people are sincere, but they are sincerely in error.

You cannot adhere to the accuracy of the textual witness and say that there is evolution as it has been proposed. "Why?" he asks, rhetorically. Because there was NO DEATH before the Fall of Mankind. Evolution inherently involves millennia of births and deaths, macro- and micro-evolutions. Both cases cannot be true. They are mutually exclusive.

To embrace evolution is to deny God's story. To deny God's story is to play with FIRE...one is denying God.

....question my sanity? Join in, I do it all the time. Anyone who can't healthily step back and question one's groundedness in Reality is closer to the edge and more brittle than I presently am....

You may not agree with me (that's an understatemment -- GBG), but you must conceed that Big Bang Science -- leading to Evolution, versus Specific Creation as recorded in Scriptures are, indeed, mutually incompatible. A church that embraces one must exclude the other, in our current understanding, and they are being hypocritical not to.

(...a house divided against itself cannot stand, and all.)