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Please look on the table in Your room
please imagine mass m

F1---> m <----F2
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table
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R-radius
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Earth's center

You want to push mass m very fast ( 30 km/s respect to table )
on mass m works Gravitation Q = m*g
short time after mass m star motion exist Fr=mV^2/R

Exist friction (table mass m ) T = Qn*fn

Qn = Q + Fr or Qn= Q-Fr



PERSON ON THE EARTH SEE 30 km/s (left/right ) direction
PERSON ON THE SUN SEE zero or 60 km/s



who have right ?

Marosz (me) we can measure forces that are working on table's Legs !!! inside each leg we can have tensometer (Mpa )

Einstein told everything is relative ?
Marosz Exist One and Special Radial force that work on table during motion !!!


HISTORY
" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .
The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."

Marosz (me ) inside rocket we can use two mass m
we can chagne omega ( please evaluate what will happen if
V1=V )



if V1=V ===> that only one ARM m--r--x--r---m will geerate tension(Mpa) in beam

Einstein Told Everything is moving
Marosz (me ) Everything in space is making rotation

There where exist gravitation must Exist some radius R and special Fr=m*V*V/R
( Mr Einstein not included above important problem in his postulats
- below very simple picture mass m on planet and mass m inside rocket ( g acceleration )

Mass m that is moving very fast respect to table can fly similar like satellites ( first escape speed )



IMPORTANT




we have mass m on the table

we can have two mass m on the table

we can fly in space without opposite to motion reaction
( not exist force that is able push Earth oposite to vehicle that I showed )

more about above
EN > http://youtu.be/U941EYo-5XY
PL > http://youtu.be/cqe17UHE0OU

Author ( I'm Engineer and Inventor)
http://tesla4.blogspot.com
I love create - below You can find more experiments proposition ( I'm very open for cooperate ) I looking place where I will work live and create . I can solve any problem that will generate person who offer me food , water , and condition to work

5 weeks ago Nasa showed raport about EMdrive Engine

NASA's raport http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052

2 Years Ago I explained all
http://youtu.be/cSsTWRt0VBA

About EMdrive You can read here
http://www.emdrive.com/

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Can you really not see the problem with your answer smile

I am not going to tell you see if you can work it out ... hint it isn't hard most children can quickly work it out.

Lets give you a start hint put a ball on the table on the spinning earth ... now Marosz why doesn't it roll off the table to show you which way earth is moving. Hell go to something really low in friction and put a ball in middle of ice rink why doesn't it fly across the rink????????????

For you it's a real hard think I know most 12 year old kiddies can give me the answer but lets see if you can answer it smile

You never answered the question how do planes and jet engines work if not by Newtons laws ... let me guess all the engineers have had it wrong for years and we should immediately ground all planes laugh

Sorry this has all got extremely stupid and you are either too stupid to discuss science with or a dumb pollack troll back to ignoring this garbage.

If you are seriously asking these questions you take stupid to a whole new level and I seriously doubt anyone has an IQ that low. So on balance pollack troll is most likely the answer.

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ORAC HAW MANY ENERGY
from DYNAMITE WILL GO LEFT/RIGHT ?





RESPECT TO WHAT ?



Evaluate problem respect to SUN next Respect to Earth



-----pipe------------
m....Dynamite...m
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above pictures ( for Inteligent people ) = evidence that not exist SYMETRY !!!

for example
( mass m left is slowing down respect to SUN mass m right is speed up ) we have difference Fr=m*Ve*Ve/R

I want to ask about other stars ? not only about SUN
Can You show me neutral direction 50% left and 50% right ?


Orac above I speak about 30 km/s respect to Earth
from zero to 300 m/s You will not see any difference
You will not able register so small forces !!!( Ice also = friction small but friction )


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ORAC do You understand what mean that Gravitation it is not FLAT acceleration I SEE GREAT FUTURE BEHIND EINSTEIN


FUNY FLAT THEORY




HISTORY


" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).


This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .


The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."


MAROSZ 400 years later ... 2014
absolute space EVIDENCE

We can make test inside rocket ( we can change local omega the best sytuation for test is when V1=V )



V1=V ===> only one arm (m---X----m)
will register tension (Mpa ) I DON't Need Make EXPERIMENTS TO PROVE IT ( ask any engineer if you not trust me smile )






Excuse me ORAC I don't what to hurt you but Your posts are like small bayby cry !!!

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Somehow you suffer a trait many of the other crazies on the forum problem have, you seem to think I care what you think smile

I am not the one trying to convince anyone of anything ... you are and failing very badly laugh

Unfortunately for you, your science and logic is almost as bad a your language skills and so I am afraid you are doomed.

You are the poor illiterate guy on the internet that everyone laughs at and unfortunately because of your personality that situation is unlikely to ever change. We can not help those who can not and will not help themselves.

You really are no different to a religious nutcase you see what you want to see, and logic and experimental results are just something to ignore smile

And that all said I will leave you to your garbage because I am sure the people out there are dying for the next installment of your great idea ... armies and companies are drooling over every word laugh

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THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT MY DISCOVERY IN LINKEDIN



( it is very important to show other people
Your opinion )
my profile : Marian Tesla process engineer TOYOTA


I'm also very good Inventor
( huge imagination and Engineer ( machine designer )

UPsky beam Light


prototype
http://youtu.be/LUGck9mNMDA


LPG or FUEL + BATTERY in automotive




FLY CITY FLY TOOL











FIRST PROTOTYPE 33 kg
http://youtu.be/uf6JKJyFLVI

FIRST MODEL 300 kg , 80 km/h , 25 kW energy
http://youtu.be/wd99ziWFF7Q


I'm also father and husband for two nice daughter
( Zosia and Malgosia )



It is natural that in WEB I mast use NICK
I'm working hard to give food my family ( it is not good if somone see my face )

MY PRIVATE BLOG OTHER PATENTS
http://tesla4.blogspot.com


Orac Orac who You are - ( are You physicist ?)

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The question is why who and what I am matters to you?

I don't need to appeal to any sort of authority that I know more than you and I have pieces of paper that say I do but that is beside the point.

I can find you hundreds of completely crazy physicists with pieces of paper that think all sorts of things, some almost as crazy as you smile

You are trying to convince people of your idea and I am simply showing you it is completely illogical it doesn't need a physicist to see the problem a child can see it.

I am not giving you an answer all I am doing is showing you the obvious problem with your idea and why everyone laughs at you.

The bottom line here is nothing is lost by us just ignoring you because your way of doing science is all wrong, you seem to think we care and should care about what you think ... WE DON'T.

WE DON'T CARE OR NEED YOUR THEORY BECAUSE IN CURRENT FORM IT BREAKS MORE THINGS THAN IT FIXES. I ACTUALLY CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IT FIXES TO BE HONEST.

If you are correct someone doing science in the normal way will eventually work out your great theory and answer all the arguments against it they will be recognized as the person that created the theory.

Unfortunately Marosz will be then be just like Mr Lagiewka a poor polish guy that no-one knows or cares about claiming he invented something on the internet that someone else is given credit for.

You are the one trying to claim you know something not me ... so you need to answer all criticism and questions not me smile

If you look at say recent relativity tests they answer all the questions and complaints made:
http://phys.org/news/2014-09-ions-relativistic-dilation-precision.html
http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.113.120405

I can't find a flaw in the experiment and the logic but if I could they would answer my question.

You won't even answer the most basic questions asked to you so it's safer just to ignore you.

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Einstein told that we can not recognize difference
Rocket in space and Rocket on planet




IDIOT HE KILED HIS SELF !!!!!


YOUR LINK ( above I showed picture )
http://phys.org/news/2014-09-ions-relativistic-dilation-precision.html


BIOLOGICAL CLOCK it IS not the same what PHYSICAL CLOCK ?

IT IS VERY NATURAL EFECT BUT ALSO TRIP DIRECTION IS IMPORTANT !!!

Question are we moving ? = how big Ellipse in absolute space are making electrons in Our body below ( hydrogen )
longer ellipse = longer live ( each atom will die after electron will make special nombers circle around athom )



ATHOM and CONSTANT motion ? very nice picture and story where the picture was made (hydrogen )
Story of the image
http://io9.com/the-first-image-ever-of-a-hydrogen-atoms-orbital-struc-509684901

How to explain problem in macro scale ?

atom center -----electron >>> 220 km/s or XXX km/s
p1

Earth-------SUN--------Earth >>> 20 km/s
.............p1

SUN started 3D wave ( gravitation or LIGHT )
in point p1 one sec later...

....20km...Earth-------SUN--------Earth >>> 20 km/s
.............p1....20km...

Not exist C+ 20 km/s or C- 20 km/s !!! exist only C speed



more far from place where signal started = winter
more close point p1 = summer



TEST THAT I MADE IN HOME 2012







Discovery : brightness of pictures West and East are not the same
Reason ? Eart's Velocity 30 km/s = 30 000 000 mm/s
(NIKON 5000d remote start, zero outsite light ,stative, manual set ,
time 10s , F 8 , Iso 200 - /10 cm to bulb / filtre is important !!!)


first test inside AIR
> http://youtu.be/XF_npmQ8kGY

first pictures
( brightness - photoshop 10 histogram) west ( -30km/s ) and East (+30 km/s )

> http://youtu.be/O9k-zidfJZg




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5 weeks ago NASA showed raport about EMdrive engine

NASA's raport http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052

I made simliar test 2 years ago
My test and about EMdrive
http://youtu.be/cSsTWRt0VBA


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DISCOVERY !!! SUN IS PUSHING EARTH !!!!


Gallileo fall law

M,m ------Planet

M and m will fall down on the Earth at one time

Marosz

M,m -------STAR

Star is able push mass M and m ===> other fall down time

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Gravitation

http://youtu.be/U941EYo-5XY


More wide Gallileo's natural fall Law ( Marosz rotation effecte)

EN > http://youtu.be/ws13iyg8XEs

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m----M----m >>> 220 km/s

m----M----m > 30 km/s

Forces inside Athom are difference reason is absolute motion and Inverse Square Law

very important problem for hysics is speed close to C




Rocket accelerate accelerate accelerate ...

Where mass M (rocket ) started Gravitation signal
Where maas m (person ) is registering the signal




MAROSZ we can solve Gallileo famous relativity hypothesis

m--L--Earth---L-m >>> 30 km/s

Fall down time is difference proportional to distance L and Motion ( absolute motion ) !!!



FIRST TEST POLAND 2012



above photography = Engine that will work in space very good
we joust can block arm ( not pendulum but BEAM fixed to box )

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So back to random repeat postings again hey laugh

Post on bro .... spams up smile


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below I showing sorce link
http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk/equivalence.htm

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In these illustrations it is suggested that the experimenter fires a small rocket engine fixed to the floor inside the lab. Until the exhaust fumes reach the ceiling, this will impart an acceleration which counteracts the acceleration provided by the external rocket motor and thus reduce the gravity accordingly. However, the same experiment in the ground lab will not produce a noticeable change, as the mass of the earth (to which the lab is effectively fixed) is much too high for this. Of course, one does not need to fire a rocket engine inside the lab to figure out whether one is in space or on the earth, but in principle almost anything one does in the lab will produce a difference, even just lifting an arm or leg. Also for instance, despite the identical apparent gravity, the period of a pendulum inside the two labs will be different as we are dealing with a two body problem and the period is affected by the mass of the lab.

This demonstrates that it is in fact impossible to make a correct interpretation of a local measurement without taking the global physical situation into account. Ignoring the latter and replacing it by one that is 'equivalent' in a certain respect can in general not give a correct description of physical reality. In this case, this means that forces due to gravity have to be considered separately from other forces
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MAROSZ - we can very easy make experiment inside rocket
and on planet !!!





We will see difference resoult ( for example we can measure tension [Mpa] inside table's legs

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Seriously you really believe that garbage?????

Let me give ask you a question in the rocket in space the rocket ejection mass is being ejected into space. While in the rocket in the lab case the rocket ejection mass is being ejected still into the earth itself.

Ok so lets level the playing field take the rocket motor in the the first example and mount it inside the rocket capsule not at the back of the rocket ship.

You are the artist so draw that please.

Now the rocket motor ejection mass is being ejected inside the rocket cabin not outside to space which makes it the same as the earth situation.

NOW THE QUESTION ... WILL THE ROCKET STILL MOVE IF WE DO THAT ... THINK HARD

You can test this on earth take a something like a swamp boat that moves by pushing air mass


Now simply enclose the whole boat and fan with a big plastic bag to stop the air being ejected from the boat locality. Is the boat now able to move ... can you guess the answer I can smile

That is the exact equivalent of putting your rocket motor in the capsule.

This is not hard stuff Marosz most school children would be able to see whats happening.

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Basically in this example



The rocket inside the spaceship will do nothing.

Fire it or don't fire it nothing will happen to the speed of the spaceship smile

You can't generate thrust by ejecting mass in a confined vessel ... try it laugh

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SPRING = INTERNAL FORCE




ORAC what will be if V2 = FIRST ESCAPE SPEED !?
and M1 >>> M2 ===> V2 >>>V1 AND





Can You show me middle point ?
mass M1---M2 before spring start push and after ?



WHERE IS SYMETRY IN PHYSICS ?


THEY TOLD ME IN SCHOOL
BE NICE BOY AND USE SYMETRY !!!





GRAVITATION IT IS NOT FLAT ACCELERAtiON





how BIG FORCE WILL REGISTER ROPE IF v1 = v






HISTORY
" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .
The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."

MY THE BEST ILLUSTRATION MACIEJ MAROSZ







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M srping m

spring = internal force source

after spring pushed mass M and m we have situation :

<---V1 M ...........m------------>V2

Where will be middle point mass M---m
if V2 = 30 km/s ( respect to Earth)
and M>>>m ===> V1<<<V2

m= 1 kg

WHERE IS SYMETRY IN PHYSICS !!??????

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I looking place where I will work live create and die ( right now I share my live between physics and Job + family I want to ASAP get Nobel and change all in my live )

Try reading this really slow .. I mean really slow because you are so stupid it needs time to sink in

I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize

Now repeat read it 5 more times please

I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize
I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize
I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize
I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize
I Marosz can not win the Nobel prize



WHY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE


You could discover the most amazing thing in science history and still you can't win the Nobel prize, because you Marosz the pollack fool are not a published scientist. The science awards are not given to non scientists who don't have formally published science papers.

You also can't win the Nobel prize if you are dead it is against the rules of the award.

Now you stupid Polish fool you can continue dribbling this garbage until you die and no-one will care and nothing is ever going to change in your life. You are still going to be poor and in your same job because you have mental issues where you seem to fail to grasp what to everyone else is obvious.

I think this is eighth time I have told you that you can't win the Nobel prize and still it hasn't sunk.


Rose: At some point you are going to do something with this Polish clown because the level of stupidity is beyond most people to tolerate.

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( Orac ... where is middle point mass M1--M2 after and before spring give energy
M1>>>M2 ??????)



XAVIER BORG very inteligent person
The Electro-Magnetic Radiation Pressure (EMRP) Gravity Theory
http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-intro.asp


to his page I want to add important fact Mass M can escape from point where signal started very fast !!!


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