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#52986 - 09/11/14 02:28 PM FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC)
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Person insde rocket (zero windows ) has got only two mass m






EN http://youtu.be/EZ_UYf1uFnE

PL http://youtu.be/Xh-opYf_JZI

EUREKA ? no ?

HISTORY
" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .
The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."

FUTURE ??? WE MUST DO MANY TESts at the end of below Ytube I showing Modern CADEVis pendulum

EN> http://youtu.be/HXKwNvA8VHs

PL > http://youtu.be/r5WzWRUhv70


Edited by newton (09/11/14 04:57 PM)

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#52992 - 09/12/14 10:42 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Marosz motion problem



ORAC 57 sec. below nice gyroscope 2 perpendicular axis not one !!! ( if desk is changing angle gyroscope keep direction )

http://youtu.be/n_6p-1J551Y



Universe centrum
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gyroscope
....ROCKET ....>>>>>>>>


rocket is making huge circle !!! ( on You tube You see desk and gyro !!! )


LINEAR MOTION PROBLEM




Below efect please compare to Earth's perception problem


Earth = Gyro only one axis

that is the reason why we have small perception

Perception's period and omega are strong roped ( below picture )

TO REGISTER PROBLEM WE MUST USE HUGE v1 !!!
(15 - 50 %) V
I don't know how big is V !!!

if we are using small V1 it is hard see problem (small force difference) Huge v1 also = problem very fast period

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#52993 - 09/12/14 10:43 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Universe










Rocket



Rocket = mass m

not exist in universe full linear motion rocket feel universe and universe feel rocket

Eintein everything is moving
Marosz everything is making rotation


We can try evaluate radius ( we can measure reaction force )



<----300km/s ....m ...........m----> 300 km/s >>>

300 km/s respect to Earth = 270 km/s , 330 km/s respect to SUN
low/high reactions in table's leg can inform US about radius and speed respect to SUN


------pipe---------
m---DYNAMITE---m
-------------------

In secoundary school they not told Us about that radial forces ( study friction problem and how big Q is giving left and right mass m to pipe )

( Pipes's Direction is important for symetry )

EN> http://youtu.be/HXKwNvA8VHs

If everything is moving Symetry not Exist !!!
we can not find neutral direction !!

http://youtu.be/1HWsvZdMBek


Edited by newton (09/12/14 10:49 AM)

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#53005 - 09/14/14 03:32 PM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Marosz 14.09.2014

We can exchange omega inside rocket m--R--x--R--m

We can very precission set v1 = v

if v1 = v ===> we will be able read forces ( MPa inside beam )
only one Arm will give force ( please study example that I showed above Sun ---m Earth , -Ve=Ve = 30 km/s )

We can use above method end very precission evaluate Absolute Motion Earth in universe ( we like all masses making some rotation - on my drawing I marked dynamical centrum for universe !!! )

I'm sorry Orac clascal mechanic is using simple drawings
You must study if you want to build good athom's model


Above I showed You model we need add to this many facts

EINSTEIN told everything is moving

MAROSZ everything is making rotation not exist in universe place where exist only gravitation or only centrifugal force we can not separate this two forces

below very hard (mathematical description ) problem if we speak about many masses in space




What is it light ?
Light = EM wave = ENergy ( always it is 3D wave )



Light always have place where started . We need use inverse Square Law to evaluate own motion respect to place where we were in past

p1..p2...p3...p4...p5...BULB >>> 30 km/s






Earth----------SUN----------Earth >>> 20 km/s
.................p1


one sec later

...20km...Earth----------SUN----------Earth >>> 20 km/s
.................p1...20km...

point p1 it is stationary point in space short time ago Sun was in point p1 ( during light is going to Earth solar systep escape from point p1 )

Each single athom on Earth is registering Inverse Square Law and Joul/meter^3 problem



ATHOM and CONSTANT motion ? very nice picture and story where the picture was made (hydrogen )

Story of the image =>
http://io9.com/the-first-image-ever-of-a-hydrogen-atoms-orbital-struc-509684901


Motion and Zero motion



Why atomic clock is slowing down

center-------e >>> 220 km/s

center-------e >>>>>>> 1000 km/s

electron is registering different intesity the same power from center is different. Electron is making biger or smaller ellipse

people during trip will live longer !!! but important is trip's direction !!!










Edited by newton (09/14/14 03:54 PM)

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#53008 - 09/15/14 03:26 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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EM drive ( Nasa showed raport 4 weeks ago -I made test 2 y ago )
NASA's raport http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052

They measure in Lab motion ( motion is reason why we can register difference EMpreasure)

Oryginal link ( EMdrive inventor)
http://www.emdrive.com/

Marosz's test


Discovery : brightness of pictures West and East are not the same Reason ? Eart's Velocity 30 km/s = 30 000 000 mm/s
(NIKON 5000d remote start, zero outsite light ,stative, manual set , time 10s , F 8 , Iso 200 - /10 cm to bulb / filtre is important !!!)




ABOUT EMdrive and MY test



http://youtu.be/cSsTWRt0VBA

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#53009 - 09/15/14 03:33 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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LIGHT AND MEDIUM PROBLEM
ENERGY and MEDIUM


Light >>> AIR ---> 30 km/s <<< Light

how many energy light is losting for pushing AIR

Air = mass m
mass m and Earth are moving



below picture I made 2 y ago ( today we should add that mass m is making rotation around some point in universe - exist Fr=mV^2/R forces lower/higher direction of pushing is important




ELECTRIC ENERGY


El ENERGY >>> medium ----> 30 km/s <<< El ENERGY


+.........10 meters wire ..........- >>> 30 km/s

Small electrons inside wire are moving with Earth
Electric energy must wake up electrons .
Please measure resisatnce that is giving wire (+/-) and (-/+ )
You will measure differerence OHM no


+.........10 meters wire ..........- >>> 220 km/s

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#53010 - 09/15/14 03:40 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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GALLILEO FALL LAW + NEW FACts


m,M --------planet

it is not the same situation

m,M---------Star


Exist EMpreasure that is pushing mass



MAROSZ

m--F1->----M------<F2---m >>> motion

if exist motion mass m left and mass m right will not fall down on mass M at one time ( mass m left and mass m right are regisering diference Joul/meter^3 )



also exist other problem

Fast own rotation can change fall down time



http://youtu.be/UvcmKNZ8u8I

http://youtu.be/ws13iyg8XEs

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#53012 - 09/15/14 06:51 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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In pipe we have dynamite
after explosion mass m left and right have got speed V

Question What if mass m velocity V is giving huge Fr force ?

EN > http://youtu.be/pJHMSx-aS80

PL > http://youtu.be/OVwI2tGQAHg

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#53013 - 09/15/14 10:27 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Future Vere we will use above facts

WHERE I SEE FUTURE FOR MY DISCOVERY ?

NEW INTERNAL GPS TYPE

WE NEED ONLY THREE CONSTANT VELOCITY
AND ASTRONOMY TIME ALGORITMS

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DYWc_0NfHZg/UanNFZgUMoI/AAAAAAAAA8A/6-XEoqsqy4U/s1600/333.jpg

ZERO GPS SIGNAL PROBLEM ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0mRKHtmH-YM/UK8pzwJ6TmI/AAAAAAAAAP0/FHh7T5UvNNY/s1600/gps2.JPG

BIG FISH ( whales ) has got inside head big empty chamber inside chamber small source of signal that is able travel without air

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tMjoAujRQ5o/UK8pspZUQQI/AAAAAAAAAPs/87K5muMoS7Q/s1600/gps1.JPG


WHY WE HAVE WINTER and SUMMER ?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sCSMCFPwLR8/UK8qPXCcAEI/AAAAAAAAAQE/8GD8vR83VIg/s1600/hot.JPG


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-agRtwFCVnPE/UYndx-VIeVI/AAAAAAAAA3c/lvRaonCImP4/s1600/WSM.JPG


NEW SYSTEM FOR AIPLANE /ROCKET

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AdDum0dDSQY/UK...66666666666.JPG


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PqEJjEZQisM/UKjVcJCGp9I/AAAAAAAAALs/0XOxA_hceK4/s1600/wwwwwwwwwwwww.JPG


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xCq4esIpFmw/USouSs6D9-I/AAAAAAAAAqo/AMikzS7lwxU/s1600/xxx.JPG



EXPLAIN DARK MATTER PROBLEM AND BLACK HOLES MODEL

BLACK HOLE
p1..p2...p3...p4...p5...p6...p7........pn.M >>>

m1..m2
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m3.........mn

Mass M is reason why small mass m1,m2,m3....mn accelerate
distance p1...pn is huge

Exist only Action !!! mass M OLD POSITION = reason why we step by step accelerate

small mass m is not able inform big mass M please stop
( dear mass M please stop in past Your signal made job !!! )



I SEE AIRPLANE BUT I CAN NOT HEAR AIRPLAIN ?
WHAT IF I NOT SEE AND NOT HEAR AIRPLAINE

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QDhADrDXABA/UVl_hphDVsI/AAAAAAAAAxc/skybrn6FqbQ/s1600/darkmaterr.JPG



MAROSZ's AETHER MODEL

below IDEA can be the best computer CPU model ( many diffrernt HZ - zero HOT problem ( zero signal lost ) - gravitation is able help us change information's adress ) many informations in one and the same time ( ideal parallel magistrale )

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JSuPkGLL5RA/UVFJrlAx17I/AAAAAAAAAuA/rC_sxo68KBE/s1600/aether2.JPG





Edited by newton (09/15/14 10:34 AM)

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#53014 - 09/15/14 10:50 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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THE BIGEST PROBLEM FOR MY DISCOVERY
THEY NOT LIKE COOPERATE !!!

EINSTEIN !!!!! RELATIVITY !!!




THEY NOT ONLY NOT LIKE LEARN PHYSICS THEY ALSO NOT LIKE HISTORY ( you can confirm) Mach and Eistein spoke about Universe model ( before E wrote SRT ) Einstein told that Mr Mach is very good and he like his model . Short time after SRT publication Einstein told that Mach Idea is inside SRT ... few months later people who like mathematica proved that Eistein eliminated MACH ... ( Einstein not told I'm sorry .. )



MACH Far Far STAR = MAROSZ close close bulb ( EM source )





I wrote e-mail to ligo team please made simple test
good laser + stative + good camera and Your pipe

we can confirm below

-----------------pipe VACUUM 4 km ------------

.......1km light ........

-----------------------------------------------

^
^30 km/s
^

Light is going strait 1/300 000 sec we on/off laser
Vacuum can not push light PIPE is moving 30 000 000 mm/s
what will hapen during next 3/300 000 sec.

My post about
http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=51368#Post51368

They Told me taht LIGO is looking Einstein's Gravitation efect
( nobody saw that efect but it must exist 300 000 000 USD and they not want to repeat simple test in vacuum ??? )

Einstein not like dynamica !!! he only write what You will see
and speculate time and dimensions and mass

100 years nobody showed what I ? No they have greate weapon PARADOX !!! and QUANTUM MECHANIC ( one body can be at one time in two place and all is ok )



ENERGY CAN NOT BE IN TWO PLACE AT ONE TIME !!!
please measure JOUL/METER ^3


Michelson Morley - more long arm = more big mistake !!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C8SSEqbpoQA/UarYNAS4ziI/AAAAAAAAA8k/L4wq9gAz1jY/s640/mmproblem.JPG



Edited by newton (09/15/14 11:03 AM)

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#53015 - 09/15/14 11:16 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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MR MAROSZ WE DON UNDERSTAND YOUR DRAWINGS YOU ARE IDIOT THAT NOT UNDERSTAND MATHEMATICA ( secoundary school is to short to understand Einstein )
EINSTEIN for example EXPLAINED GPS SYSTEM VERY GOOD ( we have fact You have thory :):):)


MAROSZ
GPS ??? MUST START BEFORE SENT SIGNAL



ARMY IS USING MANY ENGINEERS
and MANY FACTS = huge secret

ONLY SIMPLE IDIOTS form UNVERSITIES THINK THAT THEY CAN TAKE BOOK IN HAND AND INFORM CHINE ARMY HOW TO FLY WITHOUT USA or RUSSIA SYSTEM


Edited by newton (09/15/14 11:22 AM)

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#53021 - 09/16/14 12:10 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Ahh all the armies of the world are using these huge secrets and I suppose you are working for them all again in secret Marcie. So have you given up your day machinist job yet? Surely they have all raced to hire you and paid you millions smile

Marcie Marosz developing all the secret physics for the worlds armies while posting them on the internet to try and get someone to believe him ... so believable laugh

You really are the worst habitual liar and definitely suffer from delusions. Exactly how many times did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?

10 posts Marcie mate it wasn't worth it no-one cares, people would be hard pressed to even understand it smile

I can but again suggest a more constructive way which is to answer each and every criticism of your idea and not simply ignore things ... but I am probably wasting my breathe.


Edited by Orac (09/16/14 12:35 AM)
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#53022 - 09/16/14 07:01 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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ORAC You want to speak about Quantum Physics without understand Fr = mV*V/R ???
For people like You I prepared above drawing show me Action and Reaction ( why mass m is moving UP but Earth is not registering opposite reaction)


I not cooperate with Army (Nicola Tesla invented Radio - first army use his tool - civilian people 100 years later )
In universe exist few not one constant velocity ( we need only 3 vectors and astronomy time algoritm to evaluate Our position more precission than GPS ( right now )







Orac I understand Your reaction for true ( for example MR Mandalejew published his famous table in german - 15 yeras nobody understand His idea - "why he left empty place ???" )



to above test we must add Inverse Square Law Problem
Light it is never FLAT LINE LIKE WISHED MR MINKOWSKI



To above model we must ADD laser own Hz ( give not give light)



To above model we must ADD laser temperature



To above model we must Understand that Light = Force



To above model we must ADD Areodynamic Problem Earth = Ball that is making rotation

MY BIGEST MISTAKE IN BELOW PICTURE IS THAT WE CAN NOT TRICT EARTH LIKE A ROCKET ( ERTH IS MAKING ROTION AROUND AVERAGE CENTER FOR UNIVERSE



WHY EARTH CAN NOT BE TRICKT LIKE A ROCKET !!!

NOT EXIST CONSTANT LINEAR MOTION
EVERYTHING MUST MAKE ROTATION ?


MAROSZ's EVIDENCE


( below equations I Invented after conversation in Polish forum - physics )

We are able use machines on the Earth for example
Diesel Engine

m--30cm---X---30cm--m

Forces that work on small mass m ? ( 1500 [RPm] = 25 [RPs]
2PiR = 6,28 * 0,3 = 1,88 m V1 = 47 m/s , m = 1kg , )

V+V1 is very very big speed (V+V1)^2 !!! ( not exist on Earth material that is redy to fight with this forces )



[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YrUvn5DtJbs/VBVMugI-61I/AAAAAAAAB_A/QmzLUbz-qoY/s1600/CIMG3325.JPG[/img]

CONCLUSION EARTH MUST MAKING ROTATION IN UNIVERsE !!!
AROUND NOT ONLY SUN !!!

WE CAN MEASURE [MPa = N/mm^2] and use few different Earth position for the same test m-30cm-X-30cm-m

to evaluate GLOBAL RADIUS ( X - it is only local radius that we see - bearings axix ) !!!

We can change omega on the Earth very special sytuation is when mass m has got velocity
V1 = - 30 km/s !!! it is very usfull speed if we speak about Earth to explain more important for Earth rotation

Exist one and very special situation ( If V1 = V only one arm
(m-30cm-X-30cm-m ) will register tension [Mpa ]


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Each small experiment that You are making on The Earth= that You have to evaluate problem respect to DYNAMICA CENTER


Q=mg constant it is fiction !!!

Exist average and variable Gm
please use Inverse Square Law and distance to star 1, star 2
star 3 , star 4 ....starN

Also mass m in universe is making rotation arond not one star.

please Evaluate Average and variable Fr1= mV1*V1/R1 + ....
in my picture I use index because it is not "KIDDY DRAWING "


Why I'm using words "Average and Variable"
not "Average and Constant"

Physics like use Constant ( for Eaxample g on Earth )
Huge mistake !!! true and real is that Each mass is changin position respect to point where mass M were short time ago

AIRPLANE ESCAPE FRO PLACE WHERE STARTED SOUND
EACH MASS M ESCAPE FROM PLACE WHERE SIGNAL STARTED ( below ilustration )

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m2UsEuBlhoI/Usfk349TEiI/AAAAAAAABj0/HAsT6a4W818/s1600/ee.JPG[/img]


TO ABOVE PROBLEM WE MUST ADD ALSO MEDIUM PROBLEM
HIGS field is not soo good IDEA ( I saw movie about Party I have few problems !!! )

ORAC ? please study above and speak about above
please use physics not MANIPULATION !!! Spanish Inqvisitions also like speculate ...public opinion ( You are not Idiot You See Q= mg and marosz Q = Q1 + F1 ....Qn+Fn ) please open window during night ...Are You Spanish Inqvisitor ???









Edited by newton (09/16/14 07:18 AM)

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#53023 - 09/16/14 08:30 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Dear ORAC
30 km/s and we can not use Newton Q= m*g is diffenrence!!!
( it is not relativistic speed )



SHOW ME REACTION THAT IS PUSHING EARTH OPPOSITE TO MASS small mass m !






EINSTEIN !!!!! RELATIVITY !!!



FEW IDIOTS IN HARVARD or PRINCTON or CAMBRIDGE or ... OTHER PLACE ON EARTH MUST ACCEPT !!!

EVERYTHING IS MOVING = EVERYTHING IS MAKING ROTATION !!!



MAROSZ NOT INVENTED MIDDLE SPEED ( PARADOX )

Low speed (Newton )-Middle Speed ( Marosz ) -High speed ( Einstein )

MAROSZ
below picture is very universal




we can Evaluate MAIN Radius !!!
( during below experiment we must change omega
we must find V1 = V situation ==> Only one ARM in main beam will register tenssion in very special gyroscope's position )



ORAC small help to YOU why atomic clock showing difference time ( Speak with Your friends in RED ) do You see ellipse ?
when they made this picrture ( astronomy time and position )
Laboratory localization ?



Story of the image =>
http://io9.com/the-first-image-ever-of-a-hydrogen-atoms-orbital-struc-509684901

I don't understand You kiddy drawing Mr Marosz smile
You can test all in airplane smile


EINSTEIN !!!!! RELATIVITY !!!
we joust mut take Atomic clock to Airpalne we will back on Earht and we will prove that Time is difference !!!

[b]

HEY RED PEOLPE WHAT DID YOU PROVED IN AIRPLANE with ATOMIC CLOCK ??










Edited by newton (09/16/14 09:05 AM)

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#53024 - 09/16/14 08:57 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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ROFL so much stupidity you really are certifiable crazy aren't you smile

I think it is actually funnier not telling you how you got it so wrong ... it's almost as funny as your anti-gravity idea.

I have my new retro hover car design coming off the production line where is yours? laugh



As for atomic clocks you don't need a plane you can simply move it up and down in the same location and it shows time dilation. Science has done it try reading you dropkick.

The original work moved it 12 inches up and down:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...r-altitude.html

The later work has now set the measurable distance to sub millimeter.


Edited by Orac (09/16/14 09:09 AM)
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#53025 - 09/16/14 09:08 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Mass m = sattellite for Earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_spaceflight

Einstein = EMPTY EXAPLE ( we can easy recognize difference Planet /rocket )



Question show me opposite force that is working on Earth

Action and Reaction ( III Newton ????) Classical mechanic is also not good tool for fast speed for example

m=1kg and 800 km/s respect to table Q= mg = 0

http://youtu.be/HXKwNvA8VHs

ORAC very nice picture YOU ARE VISIONER (I UNDERSTANT THAT YOR VISION NEED SUPPORT I RESPECT PEOLE WITH FANTASY I PREPARED Y TUBE ABOUT YOUR CAR )





Edited by newton (09/16/14 09:16 AM)

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#53026 - 09/16/14 09:17 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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The earth is moving dropkick it has massive inertia ... try calculating it.

If you fire stuff in space the earth does move fractionally but good luck measuring it you can only really calculate it because it's so small.

It's a standard calculation here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity

You will note that is why launch sites are as close to the equator as possible and you will note for something as heavy as the Saturn V rocket you can calculate the recoil on earth

Quote:
When the mass reaches the Andromeda galaxy the earth will have recoiled 500 m.


Lets take your stupidity down to a really kid stupid level you are on a car does throwing a ball from the car change it's speed?

Lets see if you can work that out or are you a little kiddy because it is the same situation.

To help here is an answer for the little kiddies of an iceskater throwing a ball
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/phys...r-throws-a-ball

So does the car speed change Marosz?

There is also a structural error in your drawing if that long pipe is also spinning with with the earth. If the right hand mass is going up the left one should be going down. If you doubt it draw the pipe and masses a bit earlier and then draw it a bit later if the explosion didn't happen. Notice the movements that would be preserved.

You show the left mass m going up it won't it will go down as the masses have spin inertia, basic physics. The right one probably won't go up like you have shown either but you would need numbers and sizes of pipe, m and explosion because technically it could go up, down or fly flat smile


Edited by Orac (09/16/14 11:52 AM)
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#53031 - 09/16/14 07:28 PM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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Look back over this thread, Orac, All he's doing is trying to overtake Paul in posting stats. :P
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#53034 - 09/16/14 09:05 PM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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YOUR MOVIE ORAC
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/phys...r-throws-a-ball


MY QUESTIONS :

ORAC PLEASE IMAGINE THAT ICE DIRECTION IS THE SAME LIKE TABLE
(below picture )




ORAC --mass m
---------------ICE

Please imagine that ORAC is pushing mass m 30 km/s

WHY MASS m will start fly ?
Can You showm me evidence that exist opposite force to mass m fly direction


Edited by newton (09/16/14 09:06 PM)

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#53035 - 09/17/14 12:42 AM Re: FIRST LINEAR MOTION DETECTOR ( CLASSICAL MECHANIC) [Re: newton]
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ROFL do what they did in the movie strap on a pair of skates take some balls and throw them and watch what happens smile

If you are allowed to shoot a gun in your country strap on a pair of roller-blades stand still and shoot the gun and see what happens smile

Every rocket and jet engine works by accelerating a mass of air in the same way smile

They all all types of REACTION ENGINES try reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_engine

There are literally thousands of these engines which most non kiddies immediately recognize.

The first line says of the description says it all

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A reaction engine is an engine or motor which provides propulsion (thrust) by expelling reaction mass, in accordance with Newton's third law of motion.

So the fact Jet engine planes can fly and rockets be fired into space proof enough for you Marosz?

So the answer to your question IS the earth does move in your experiment as it does for any rocket fired into space. It's just that it's a tiny amount because of the relative inertia of the earth. NASA actually has some interesting papers on how to move earth if needed that makes good reading.

The answer to the car question is the car speed does change by throwing the ball but its the same as the earth it's so small you would never notice it without incredible accurate setup.

Even a large battleship cruising in the water firing a full broadside barely moves the mass ratios are all wrong here is it explained with maths and a rather nice picture of it.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm


So if it fired in front it would slow 6 inch/sec, if it fired behind it would speed up 6 inch/sec and sideways well it would move sideways 6 inch/sec if you had the battleship on skates on ice like the kiddy ball movie smile


Edited by Orac (09/17/14 01:41 AM)
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