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#51960 05/08/14 05:59 AM
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This is one of the more interesting things that came across my desk from the chemistry boys.

I have to say I really really like the idea and solves CO2 problems in the process

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2014/05/solar-jet-fuel-made-out-thin-air


I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.
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Correction: This article was updated on 6 May to stress that the research was led by ETH Zurich, and that the quoted efficiency of 1.73% was for the sunlight-to-syngas process only.


only 98.27% to go eh?

seems you could stick two thumb tacks together and have a
better process.

anyway , let us know when it actually powers something.

until then its just more wasted research money.
sometimes I truly believe that scientist don't want to actually
accomplish any type of breakthrough process that would have an
impact on energy due to the fears that research money would be
brought to a halt.


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I have to say I really really like the idea and solves CO2 problems in the process



you also like QM.

and any solution to any problem will not solve any problem until the solution to the problem is applied to the problem.















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You mistake me for someone who cares what think smile

We will take you money and spend it just to annoy you .... poor Paul.

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You mistake me for someone who cares what think


no , I haven't mistaken you for someone who cares what think.

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We will take you money


no , We will take you money.





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All right, guys, you're not contributing anything to the conversation topic. Cut the slanging match or I'll edit more. No more name calling or religious insults. If you haven't something on topic to say, don't say anything at all. As Ben Franklin said, "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."


If you don't care for reality, just wait a while; another will be along shortly. --A Rose

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Back in the early1970s I was one of a team of 10 who walked a 1,000 miles relay through Britain. When I took the first step I had done something like 1.7x10^-4% of the walk. There were those who thought we would never make it, but we did.

Perhaps the same can be said of this project; perhaps those who scoff at the first step can console themselves with the thought that they may never see it come to fruition, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it will not.


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Bill S. #51994 05/12/14 07:01 PM
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back in the 1970's I first learned about photo cells and their
ability to produce electricity from a source of light.

back then I thought that within a few decades we would all
be using electricity generated mostly from sunlight.

and we could have done it.

I would say that the average home today uses less than 1% of
electricity generated from sunlight.

you see it doesn't matter if it will work or not.
what matters is how much money / influence is against its use.


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you see it doesn't matter if it will work or not.
what matters is how much money / influence is against its use.


You will see no argument from me on that point, but I don't think it detracts from the fact that starting small is not necessarily an indication of future failure.

If you are interested in the various factors that influence success and failure, I recommend Brian Clegg's "Dice World". It's an interesting read.


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I don't really want to read about what someone thinks about
the various factors involved in success and failure.

and if energy was not involved then I could agree with you
about starting small.

lets take the energy market today for instance , Russia's
vast oil supplies and their future economy would be at risk
if someone were capable of bringing a process such as this
one into use.

no one would need to buy gasoline refined from crude oil ever
again.

the economy of the U.S. wouldn't be that much affected by it
because we import our energy.

countries such as Saudi Arabia on the other hand along with Venezuela etc
would experience a dramatic strain on their countries economies.

these economic strains would possibly lead to world war as
these countries beef up their economies by building their
military.

these factors are probably not discussed in the book you
suggested.

unless there is a world war that will force the use of
alternate energy / free energy into use due to energy
shortages then I cant see oil being replaced until its
no longer available in the ground.

that's why I say it doesn't matter if it will or will not
work , what matters is the money / influence against its use.





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now with that said , why cant we in the U.S. just drill
through the earth until we reach the vast Russian oil supplies.



after you pass a certain depth / point wouldn't it be like drilling through pudding?

how deep are our countries boundaries , couldn't china drill
under ground to the Russian oil?

I wonder if that is the real reason all the underground
military bases are being built.

underground military bases



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Apart, perhaps, from drilling through "puddingworld" your reasoning is sound. I must say, though, that I have given the wrong impression about "Dice World". It's not a book about success and failure, it's about randomness in the cosmos. Along the way he touches on things like Lagrangian Points, micromorts and the Harry Potter phenomenon.


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well then , in that case it might just be a book that
I would enjoy reading.

BTW , I just friended harry potter on facistbook so that
I can gain a in depth understanding of the potter phenomenon.

https://www.facebook.com/harrypottermovie


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I avoid facebook whenever possible.


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