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#51434 03/27/14 10:29 AM
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I have a question..
When Cavendish did his experiment for measuring the gravitational constant G, did he use the gravitational law F= G * m1m2/R² to determine G. If he did, is R the distance between the 2 spheres from centerpoint to centerpoint?

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I have a Question to ORAC smile

When Cavendish did his experiment for measuring the gravitational constant G did he use information about
gravitation speed limit and Inverse square Law ?



p1..p2..p3..p4..p5..M >>> velocity

single mass M is moving in the universe

p1..p2 =p3..p4 ====> we have constant motion !!

not exist C+V !!! exist only C
( Yelow rings represents 3D Gravitation's ball)



3D signal POWER PROBLEM ?
( Inverse Square Law Old greece )



More far from place where signal started = lower intensity ( "lower brightness" )

1R = X , 2R = X/4 , 3R = X/9

X- brightness, R- radius
the same energy portion but different area

Photography and Newton ( books physics ) ?
we have similar equations !




THREE MASS IN YOUR ROOM ?



above 3 mass on table in Your Room


m-----M-------m >>> 220 km/s
......P1

Mass M started G signal in point P1 after short time T

fact 1 ( gravitation's 3D signal is rising respect to point where signal started ( apparent position )
fact 2 masses are moving respect to point p1 distance L )

.L..m-----M-------m >>> 220 km/s
......P1


DISTANCE L snd Motion ( Signal's Intensity ) ??
300000km/s
60000 km/s
0 km/s

WHY WE HAVE WINTER and SUMMER ?




E------SUN ------E >>> 20 km/s
........P1

after 1 sec


....20 km...E------SUN ------E >>> 20 km/s
........P1


Please add to above model inverse Square Law and fact that ot exist C+ 20 km/s


SUN MOTION in absolute space ?



in 2014 Marosz Made first radial turbine (http://marosz-physics.blogspot.com/ )
so exist evidence that we can move faster than G speed
because we no need to push mass M opposite to motion's direction ( we can go faster than any mass in the universe )


Motion ?

p1..p2..p3..p4..p5...m ----> speed





How many kilograms will see person after ?
1h fly
1 week fly
1 year fly

CONSTANT ACCELEArTAION ?
betweem rocket's mass M
and person's Mass m
exist distance L or L + L1
L1 additional virtual distance ( motion ) !!!




GALILEO NATURAL FALL DOWN LAW

m -------Earth
M

m-------Earth--------m >>>> motion


Galileo proved that Mass M and m will natural fall down
at one and the same time !!!

Marosz I ADD additional problem

mass m left and right will not fall down at one and the same time ( motion problem !!! ) different absolute distance , and different intensity of the signal !!!


HISTORY
" Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving .
The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."


MAROSZ ( me ) ???
" (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them)." ?!


GRAVITATION IT IS CONSTANT !!!
NOT EXIST G + V !!!

MR GALILEO WE CAN SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM THERE IS NO ANY
relativity hypothesis !!!








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Why did you make a sock puppet Marsoz?

ThothThisThrough = Marosz it is blatantly obvious to everyone.

What you thought DOUBLE TROLL or start posting agreeing with yourself smile

Unfortunately your english and polish are both so bad everyone is immediately going to pick you as the same person.


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ORAC You have zero alternative to above
because I speak about real live situation





You think That Above = mistake ?

please make a test.


m------rope-----Vehicle >>>> acceleration


please use flat table and oil ( small friction )

Einstein rocket = constant acceleration
please use electric vehicle and set constant 9,81
( in low cost version you can use not vehicle but
big mass M and rope and fall down law )

please make angle like I show in Einstein rocket
I'm Sure that You will never SEE C3 point

In my experiment You will not see periodical motion
not because real live = many mistake ( only more bad or good theroretical model explanation ) but because constant acceleration = FLAT GRAVITATION !!!

In other Post on this forum I learned you that not exist
LASER that can maid ideal strait line !!! If Earth is moving
but in above test You can use CAMERA to register resoult


About PART 2 in my above picture

III Newton LAW ? action and reaction ?

Earth it is not ideal Ball ( C -center mass point not exist in ideal geometry center )

I marked on my drawing q1,q2,q3, force ( Newton gravitation )

TRUE is that direction C---C1, C--C2, C---C3 it is always strait line ( zero radius that can be ARM ,q1,q2,q3, can not generate torque) .

If Not Exist ARM not Exist possible to have antyreaction to Radial force Fr !!!

before we start pendulum RULES works perfect we have ZERO
angular momentum

after we start pendulum torque R x Fr is starting change Earth rotation

Radial force if You respect FUNDAMENTS FOR PHYSICS ( modern and old and QUANTUM IDIOTICA too ) You can not change momentum Your own Coordination system . Radial forces are internal forces .

In real world ( electric energy - electrons drift , or Fluid flow we observing radial forces everyday ) - not so many people understand that if pipe inside house change direction 90 degree it is radial force but...

Engineers like me and many other can use above problem to propel vehicle it is physics very good and high level new classicl mechanic http://marosz-physics.blogspot.com/

For physics my engine and many similar = that we can start
travell without mv1=Mv2 problem . above Engine is able exchange Energy to motion without limits that have actual engines ( Airplane can not go faster than Gas - turbine push opposite to motion more light than airlane gas with huge speed - but this huge speed = limit )

Radial engines don't like world limit

Universe generaly not like word limit

C speed ? I not see problem to go faster than any object
in universe above turbines exchange Radial forces to motion
radial = M*V*V not mV !!!

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ORAC YOU SHOWED link to wiki
"Cavendish experiment"

WHAT MEAN "AVERAGE EARTH DENSITY" inside wiki link !?

Marosz
PERIODICAL EARTH DENSITY ? (it is better definition )


WHERE WAS LABORATY and apparature ? ( geaographic wide )
time and date TEST ( Earth SUN position )
!!! MOTION !!! MOTION is important ( direction to absolute motion )

Earth is making own rotation !
Earth and SUN are moving in space

we will never have two the same CONSTANT G !!!

right now we will be able prepare very precission test
24h period and observe how absolute motion and inverse Sqare Law is able change Newton's constant !!!

YES - below details





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Good Engineer and Extra long ARM we will keep huge test precission 0,5 mm diameter VS 50 000 mm arm

I think that we can trick 0,5 mm rope = ZERO RESISTANCE




Orac thank You very much for link to Cavendish Experiment
!!! GREAT JOB !!!




I want to measure ENRGETIC TENSION ( inertia FRAME ) respect to stationary space !!!

acceleration and slowing down cost us other energy portion!!!
please notice graph in my picture



Electrons MASS and INERTIA ? How many electric energy cost US speed up electron ( electric energy is able be exchange to kinetic energy )



More precission explanation what is it for me Enrgetic tenssion



mass m inrtia for me ?

Inertia = Absolute kinetic Energy !!!
Gravitation mass = how mass M cooperate with other bodies
in the universe ( GRAVITATION WAVES AND INVERSE SQUARE LAW AND APPARENT POSITION )

but Inertia = cleare absolute motion PROBLEM !!!

in 2012 in poland I made first test how to measure Earth absolute motion http://youtu.be/tTSXLOEKy5E

we need made ultra precission test inside LIGO !!!and calibrate position for test inertia frAme !!!

http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=51368#Post51368

AFTER LIGO WE WILL BE ABLE EVALUATE ABSOLUTE SINGLE ELECTRON KINETIC energy

(electrons are inside wire - wire is on the Earth - wire and Earth are moving in space ) !!!


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I cracked up laughing at this




Now Marosz think real hard about this experiment

a) Spin a gyroscope at one speed and think what happens.
b) Spin a gyroscope at twice that speed what should happen.

Here let me give you a simpler version of the experiment to try at home.

Get a piece of string with a ball tied to the end and then attach the string to the centre shaft of a motor so it swings it around.

Now here on earth such a spinning ball stays perfectly flat or more correctly at right angles to gravity you can check it against a spirit level.

Think about what should happen according to your stupid dropkick theory formula ... it is obviously and trivially wrong smile

I am betting you can't even work out what your dropkick stupid theory maths says should happen laugh

Anyhow I will leave you to your stupid dribble.

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Very good experiment I sugest You
can do but use table ( zero friction )

please observe how Engine will dance !!!

ball ---V--> rotation direction
i
i
i
engine ======30 km/s ========>




ball ---V--> rotation direction
i
i
i
engine <=========30km/s=======



please write equation ( Kinetic Energy )
1 respect to Engine ( Earth )
2 respect to point p1 ( below definition )

p1..p2..p3..p4..p5...Earth >>> 30 km/s

P1- point that exist in space Earth was there short time ago
p1 it is stationary point in space (ABSOLUTE ZERO ) for Earth


After You finish ( You will see different ) ask your stupi head what is more easy

child1.....ball -v1-->........Child2

.........child3

How many energy cost child 2 push opposite to motion mass m
give ball speed V1 opposite to above situation ( how many energy cost child 3 push ball perpendicular V1 speed )

Orac In YOUR FLAT BRAIN EXIST DIFFERNT OR YOU
TRYING TO TELL ME ThAT it is the same energy portion
Small help to ORAC ( Quantum can dastroy brain so I helping him below picture )




AFTER YOU READ ABOVE POST
PLEASE GO TO MIRROR TAKE A PICTURE YOUR FACE
I WANT TO SEE YOU ...

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Still not smart enough to work out what the problem is hey laugh

Let me know if you want me to give you the answer of what would happen and why your stupid theory is obviously wrong for our universe smile

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18 of April 2014
TEST THAT I MADE IN POLAND




MY TEST
EN > http://youtu.be/-qLIjbjB0GU
PL > http://youtu.be/lmKccRTQgy4




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