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thanks Bill S

that hit the spot.

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Because viscosity enters into boundary-layer scalings as Graphic rather than E, and further that Graphic, arguably both viscosity and inertia may be equally important in the earth’s core. However, our goal was to explore the magnetostrophic limit, and as such, we chose to focus attention on the Ekman-state balance at very small viscosity.

‡Although our model provides a consistent description of the dynamics of inner-core rotation over the 10–100-y timescale, different dynamics may be important on millennial timescales (32).

Freely available online through the PNAS open access option.


this type of research has value and deserves more.

while reading the article I noticed several points that I
have been considering and have posted here.


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Always glad to help. smile

Seriously, though, this thread does seem to be uncovering areas in which there is either very little reliable information, or that information is difficult to access.


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I think I have once again demonstrated that Paul isn't really interested in the reality of science, so I will drop this matter. For everybody else, just remember that Paul doesn't know how science works and won't bother to learn and take any thing he says with a grain of salt until you have checked it out.

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Seriously, though, this thread does seem to be uncovering areas in which there is either very little reliable information, or that information is difficult to access.


I agree , that's why I believe that more research in this area
is needed.

and the research will sort out the refuse.


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I think I have once again demonstrated that Paul isn't really interested in the reality of science


Im gald for you , you should pat yourself on your back.


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Be that as it may, this discussion has raised some interesting geological thoughts, and there could be more to come.

Looking back at discussions with PreEarth, there are lots of aspects of mantle geology I would have skimmed over had it not been for his arguments. The same applies here, so I'm still in on the geology part.


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The current model of the Earth in sciencebooks is totally wrong, don't forget that. The Earth is hollow, has an internal sun, has polar openings, and shell thickness is 480km.
The Earth is expanding as well, primitive radius was 3700-3800km.
Due to the expansion and conservation of mass, the Earth becomes hollower and hollower. If they say there are oceans at depth 450-600km, only proves this only true theory.
Shell Theorem? wrong. The center of mass is not equal the center of gravity. You are not weightless inside a hollow Earth, only in the center.
Mass of the Earth? Needs recalculation, will be much less.
Gravitational constant also wrong.
Other planets are hollow too, even our Moon.
Baffled by this information? I can proof every single word I say.
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Im not going to say that the hollow earth theory is not valid.

and

Im not going to say that the hollow earth theory is valid.

but I would like to hear your most important piece of evidence
that the earth is hollow.


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Ok, first, I will prove that we have an inner sun and polar openings.
Jupiter
Cassini polar movie:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Jupiter_Polar_Winds.gif
Look at the censored image from NASA:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Map_of_Jupiter.jpg
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1895/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1895-9347.jpg
Why are they doing that you think? rarara
You can clearly see the inner sun in the movie.

Moon
Check the Moon in Google Earth. Do to the south pole. You see the light from the inner sun. The 'moon impact probe' is highly probably a coverup. This can never be 1 photo, there are 100 strips of photographs attached to each other, so its an eternal light source.

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Hi Thoth This Through, thanks for the PM.

You say "I am pretty sure the Earth is hollow and has an inner sun."

I think the open forum is the best place to discuss this. May I suggest that a new thread would be a good idea. Perhaps you could start it with an explanation of why you believe these things.


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Bill, it is obvious that Thoth has been reading the works of that eminent scientist Edgar Rice Burroughs. Burroughs wrote several volumes about the hollow earth, starting with "At the Earth's Core". In these volumes he outlined the lives of people living on the inner surface of the Earth, and the plant and animal life that they shared it with.

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I'm sorry, never heard of that guy. I'm not interested in reading fantasy nor scientific books. However, I like to read ancient texts from BC.

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http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/video/videodetails/?videoID=255

you might want to watch the above video.

the video has data in it that can help you to understand the
planet.

but you will need to understand how to apply the data.

usually the ability to apply data comes with the acquisition of knowledge from books.

I cant blame you for not wanting to read scientific books
because some if not most of them contain an agenda within their pages that I don't agree with due to my logical thought processes that I have acquired over the years.

and even if you might not agree with the agenda in the science books , they do have useful information in them that you can use to apply data from a set of gathered findings to form a view of any observed or unobserved instance.

in the above video you have data from an observed instance.

using gathered data and having the ability to apply that data will provide you with a wealth of insight into the theories that you encounter.


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Originally Posted By: Paul
I cant blame you for not wanting to read scientific books
because some if not most of them contain an agenda within their pages


That's right most of them do have an agenda. Their agenda is to explain how the universe works.

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Are you trying to be funny? They explain how the universe works?? Are you really serious? They lie about EVERYTHING that lies further than 500 miles away from this planet. You're probably one of that guys who hardly believe in intelligent extraterrestrial life. Maybe you believe in alien bacterial lifeforms, but definitely not smarter than you.
If you believe in God, you believe in an alien who created us. Do not forget that.
Yes, your idol Newton was a genius, but his 'shell theorem' is absolutely rubbish. The center of gravity is NOT located in the center of the sphere. He had a pen and paper, but he could not use computerpower. I made a simple vbscript which proves he was wrong. Gravitational constant G is miscalculated, so is the mass of the Earth.
I only trust one thing and that's my own tiny brain. We know only 0.001% of what's really happening in the universe.

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Well Thoth, I guess you need to move this discussion over to the Science Fiction forum, since that is what you seem to be talking. Otherwise we don't need any more people who are just here to stir up a lot of garbage. So bye-bye

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I will let Thoth speak to this poor child of men (Bill Gill):
Deep in Earth's heart lie the Halls of Amenti,
far 'neath the islands of sunken Atlantis,
Halls of the Dead and halls of the living,
bathed in the fire of the infinite ALL.
Far in a past time, lost in the space time,
the Children of Light looked down on the world.
Seeing the children of men in their bondage,
bound by the force that came from beyond.
Knew they that only by freedom from bondage
could man ever rise from the Earth to the Sun.
Down they descended and created bodies,
taking the semblance of men as their own.
The Masters of everything said after their forming:
"We are they who were formed from the space-dust,
partaking of life from the infinite ALL;
living in the world as children of men,
like and yet unlike the children of men."
Then for a dwelling place, far 'neath the earth crust,
blasted great spaces they by their power,
spaces apart from the children of men.
Surrounded them by forces and power,
shielded from harm they the Halls of the Dead.
Side by side then, placed they other spaces,
filled them with Life and with Light from above.
Builded they then the Halls of Amenti,
that they might dwell eternally there,
living with life to eternity's end.
Thirty and two were there of the children,
sons of Lights who had come among men,
seeking to free from the bondage of darkness
those who were bound by the force from beyond.
Deep in the Halls of Life grew a flower, flaming,
expanding, driving backward the night.
Placed in the center, a ray of great potence, Life
giving, Light giving, filling with power all who came near it.
Placed they around it thrones, two and thirty,
places for each of the Children of Light,
placed so that they were bathed in the radiance,
filled with the Life from the eternal Light.
There time after time placed they their first created bodies
so that they might by filled with the Spirit of Life.
One hundred years out of each thousand must the
Life-giving Light flame forth on their bodies.
Quickening, awakening the Spirit of Life.
There in the circle from aeon to aeon,
sit the Great Masters,
living a life not known among men.
There in the Halls of Life they lie sleeping;
free flows their Soul through the bodies of men.
Time after time, while their bodies lie sleeping,
incarnate they in the bodies of men.
Teaching and guiding onward and upward,
out of the darkness into the light.
There in the Hall of Life, filled with their wisdom,
known not to the races of man, living forever 'neath the cold
fire of life, sit the Children of Light.
Times there are when they awaken,
come from the depths to be lights among


So there is life at 3 places: On the outside of the planet, on the inside of the planet, and in the shell of the Earth. This is what this topic is about: how you can get oceans 480km deep? Simple, the Earth is hollow with an inner sun. What's above is what's below and what's above is what's below. Smart guys will know what I'm talking about. Earth is expanding as well. Read your holy bible, the Genesis, and look for similarities with this text. You are an American, you'll probably believe in 'God'. I'm not a sci-fi fan, i will not move to there because this is the truth I'm talking about.

The world of the mainstream scientists is about to collapse. Their Earth model is completely wrong. How do they explain the presence of deep underground oceans? Isn't there magma of thousands of degrees? Water would just vaporise instantly. Your idol Newton said you're weightless inside a hollow sphere? You will have to wait for another famous genious to disprove that, before you will believe it. Because everything what Newton or Einstein said, is holy gold according to scientists. Start thinking with your own brain and never believe someone untill you have researched it for yourself. There are holes at the poles. Find me a uncensored picture of the North or the Southpole. You will only find photos with black or white dots on it. Don't tell me that satellites cannot see the poles.

I'm Dutch, i'm sorry for my English
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That's right most of them do have an agenda. Their agenda is to explain how the universe works.

Bill Gill


thats not the agenda I was talking about , but since you brought
it up , you say their agenda is to explain how the
universe works.

as if they already know!

do they?

wouldnt it be more factual to say that when it comes to how the universe works, we the people of earth dont understand how the universe works, and how the universe works is mostly unknown?

so we try to reason with the workings of the universe but we
cant explain how the universe works if we dont know how the universe works.

and if we claim that we can explain how the universe works then
wouldnt that be garbage.


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Yes, your idol Newton was a genius, but his 'shell theorem' is absolutely rubbish. The center of gravity is NOT located in the center of the sphere. He had a pen and paper, but he could not use computer power.


Newton was a Genius , and he was a good man , and he didnt have
the tools that we have today.

I think he did extremely well with what was available to him.

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I made a simple vbscript which proves he was wrong.


could you post the script.

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Gravitational constant G is miscalculated, so is the mass of the Earth.


we can observe the reason that we use 9.7 m/s^2 as g to determine the acceleration at which an object is accelerated towards the earth due to the gravitational attraction.


G = 6.67×10^-11 N·(m/kg)^2



what do you get as G and how?






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