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The atmosphere of the earth = 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases .

The atmosphere of the earth = total atmosphere of all countries so each country basically have to create 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases base on the area of that country .

We can call the plant create O2 value and decrease CO2 value base on the area of 1 country is A1 , original O2 /CO2 value of country A without the appearance of citizens of A .
When citizens of country A appear , they use O2 and create CO2 so country A have to create O2 value and decrease CO2 value for citizens of A , then citizens of A destroy tree / plant of country A ( build house , build road , .... ) so country A have to restoring O2value and decreasing CO2 value of tree / plant when they destroy tree / plant .I call this is A2 value - O2 / CO2 value of country A must have for the appearance of citizens of country A .

So real O2 / CO2 value of country A or A0 = A1 “+” A2

Ex : we have 1 original Earth ( without human kind ) which 1000 plants . Total water of original Earth is 1000 gallons . Here for easiest , I choose 1000 trees . This is a fresh environment , no pollution . And then human kind appear , we destroy environment to build our society , example use trees to make furniture , destroy trees to build a house , here I choose human destroy 500 trees . 1 tree absorb 1 gallon water .Human kind use water , here I choose human use 100 gallons water . North Pole and South Pole , ice is thawing , I choose total water is 100 gallons . Temperature of 1 tree = 21 C degree , 1 human being = 37 C degree . 1 mature tree give O2 enough to 2 human being and here human = 100 persons human use 50 cars , 6 trees can decrease CO2 of 1 car.Earth weight 1000 lbs , every day human use 10 lbs petrol/gas , petrol made from oil , we use petrol /gas meant our engine / house burn petrol/gas . , . So :

The total water of Earth ( can make flood , rising sea water ) : 1000 + 500 – 100 + 100 = 1500 gallons water because original Earth have 1000 gallons , destroy 500 meant 500 gallons are not absorbed by trees , 500 gallons water come back to sea , atmosphere , - 100 because human use 100 gallons , + 100 because ice is thawing …. . That’s why sea water is rising .

A0 = A1 “+” A2 : to restore fresh environment , our Earth must have : 1000 trees ( original Earth ) + ( 100 trees / 2 ) + ( 50 * 6 )= 1350 trees . Tree here is a representation of O2 / CO2 value .

The temperature of the Earth = average temperature of each position of the Earth . So 1 person 37 C degree stand near 1 tree 21 C degree => average temp of this position = (37 + 21 )/2= 29 C degree .

So decrease the temperature of each position on this world is really important if we want to decrease the temperature of our hot Earth .Earth is hot , 80% come from sea . 1 day , human burn 10lbs petrol/gas , we decrease weight of Earth everyday , weight of Earth = 1000 – 10 = 9990 lbs . Earth is hot 80% come from sea because weight of Earth is decreased everyday but the core’s temperature of Earth doesn’t change , between water and rock , stone , water is easiest to become hot , that’s why Ocean become hot . THIS IS THE MAIN EXAMPLE I USE TO ANALYZE THE DESIGN OF NOAA’S BUILDING CENTER FOR WEATHER AND CLIMATE PREDICTION .

Sea water is rising . We destroy alot of forest and to many lands become desert. Trees absorbs fresh water . If we call trees are absorbing water sources so when we decrease absorbing water sources , of course sea water is rising a little . And land with living trees will absorb more water than desert . My formula need a lot of trees it's meant trees can absorbs a lot of water . Tree , plant are the connection between sea water and CO2 , we want sea water become lower and decreasing CO2, we need more absorbing water and CO2 sources and trees are the best , plants are the second .
Today , structure of CO2 = original CO2 value ( before human kind appear ) and additional CO2 come from oil , coal , gas , …… , human . Oil , coal , … all things are under the ground before human kind appear . The additional CO2 value from oil , gas , coal are the new part of material , add to the original atmosphere of the Earth before human kind appear . North Pole and South Pole , ice is thawing , this is the new part of sea water supply to the original sea water ( before human kind appear ) .

We have :O2 / CO2 value of country A or A0 = A1 “+” A2
Human kind is thing that original Earth don’t have . We have more sea water come from Ice that original Earth don’t have .We have CO2 come from oil , petrol , coal , …. That original Earth don’t have . A2 is a thing that original Earth don’t have but with more sea water and more CO2 value from coal , oil , …. I meant we have more material , the material we use to remove the pollution of human kind from inside the Earth and Ice . ( The CO2 from oil , coal , … is a material to create more O2 ) . It’s a really difficult job but we have a lot of deserts can become absorbing water and CO2 sources .
Decreasing CO2 will never solve climate change . Continue to make people and all governments understand about global warming like that is a crime . Continue to solve global warming by decreasing CO2 will make it destroy the whole world .I don’t want to see the world think they are doing good things in NEXT 40 or 50 years but finally have a really bad result .We need to warn the world , at least with decreasing CO2 solution .

For 1 country : 1 country need to create the original O2 value of that country + O2 value for activities of citizens of that country . 1 country need to decrease CO2 value just like the original country did and decrease CO2 value of activities of citizens of that country .

All of our governments gather in many meeting and talk about “ decreasing CO2 “ but sadly , decreasing CO2 will never can stop climate change . Only restore a environment base on a correct formula of rate of CO2 , O2 , …. just like a atmosphere before human kind appear , land and trees , plants must absorb more water to decrease total water on this Earth , prevent rising sea water . More plants , trees are best for each position on this Earth will help to decrease average temperature of every position on this Earth .
A1 , A2 , A0 this formula look like the conversation of mass when weight of Earth is decreasing every day
and weight of atmosphere is increasing every day .



Ex : we have 2 area A and B , area A= area B= 4 parts . We plant A only with grass and plant B , 2 parts use grass and 2 parts use very high trees . Of course value of O2 and CO2 of B area > value of O2 and CO2 of A area because high tree always give more O2 and decrease CO2 better than grass .
But according to http://members.shaw.ca/tfrisen/is_there_enough_oxygen.htm , mass of O2 of atmosphere = (1.2 x 1018 kg) , we can finish Oxygen in 15 000 years . So here , we can stop focus on Oxygen and pay attention on CO2 – subject of all climate summits

When we destroy a forest and use wood to make many things , we leave wild grass and low height tree . But wild grass and low height tree taller a lot than grass we plant in of our building , and value of O2 and CO2 of wild grass and low height tree > O2 and CO2 of grass in front of a building because people usually cut grass every weak . It’s meant grass of building worse than wild grass and low height tree of a destructive forest.

When architectures destroy tree/plant and build many famous places such as White House , NATO headquarter , WHO , United Nation , .... , our architectures didn’t compare the value of O2/CO2 of tree / plant they destroy ,this is A1 and O2/CO2 of tree / plant they re – create around the building after they build the building , we call this is A2 . When people work in that building , they and their cars use O2 and create CO2 , I call this is A3 so tree / plant of that area must :
A0 = A2 + A3 , A2 must = A1 or O2 / CO2 of plants they re –create must = original O2 / CO2 of plants which they destroyed .

I will analyze 1 best building and it’s environment before and after they build the building : NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction , this building finish in 2009 with 50 acres – section and 26 acres for grassland .



Google Earth image .
This is image of NOAA . Above are original place of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction , before US build NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction, College Park, Maryland and after they build the building . Sadly , the architecture don’t know about the original O2/CO2 come from this area .

3 buildings , only 1 have a chance to restore the original environment but the architecture don’t take this opportunity for a better environment , they use this for worse environment . This things is a serious errors all around this world when they choose grassland .
NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction have 800 employees include staff work inside the building .“ More than 50 percent of the roof surface covered with plants, including chive, sedum, and flowers for better insulation and protection “ ( Credit : NOAA )

I use Google Earth for measuring and I have 26 acres of grassland so I only analyze the 26 acres section to find out did US government protect the environment or not

The original place ( A + B + C = 26 acres ) before US government build are 26 acres of trees and wild grass area. With black white image , I estimate 1 acre of tree have 300 mature trees and 2/3 area for grass .

"A single mature tree can absorb carbon dioxide at a rate of 48 lbs per year- McAliney, Mike. Arguments for Land Conservation: Documentation and Information Sources for Land Resources Protection, Trust for Public Land, Sacramento, CA, December, 1993

On average, one tree produces nearly 260 pounds of oxygen each year. Two mature trees can provide enough oxygen for a family of four. Environment Canada, Canada's national environmental agency

So 26 acres( A + B + C = 26 acres ) of trees with 300 trees per acre = 26 * 300 = 7800 trees .

In 1 year , 26 acres of trees absorb : 7800 *48 = 374400 lbs CO2 .
In 1 year , 26 acres of tree produce : 7800 * 260 = 2028000 lbs O2 .

I'm not sure I fully understood what you are saying, but I think I got the general idea. My first thought is that trees are not necessarily the best CO2 captors. Other plants may be better. Algae are probably the best. But another factor is that plant life is not a long term solution. Plants absorb CO2 during their life, but when they die they begin to decay and release the CO2 they have absorbed back into the atmosphere. If we could stop using fossil fuels and use bio-fuels then the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere would be much reduced.

The global warming problem is basically caused by the use of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are just that, fossils. They are the remains of plants which were buried and did not decay normally. So the CO2 they captured during their lives was stored away under ground until we started pulling them out of the ground and burning them. When that happens the CO2 they captured is released at an accelerated pace, much faster than it was captured originally.

While your solution may be interesting I am afraid that it is not a complete solution to the global warming problem.

Bill Gill

Sorry , but I need time to update my 1st post tomorrow

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In 1 year , 26 acres of trees absorb : 7800 *48 = 374400 lbs CO2 .
In 1 year , 26 acres of tree produce : 7800 * 260 = 2028000 lbs O2 .




Mature grasslands sequester 2400 - 3600 lbsCO2 per acre each year – Technical Assessment of the Carbon Sequestration Potential of Managed Turfgrass in the United State ,Dr . RanajitSahu , 2008 at the request of the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute .

It is estimated that a 50 by 50 foot lawn (2,500 square feet), releases enough oxygen for a family of four, while absorbing carbon dioxide, hydrogen fluoride and perosyacetyle nitrate This means that one square foot of grass will produce approximately half a kilogram of oxygen a day .

Because wild grass / native plants usually grow under the trees so I estimate 2/3 of 260acres are wild grass / native plants .2/3 of 26 acres are wild grass / native plants . It’s meant about 17 acres are wild grass / native plants . 1 acre = 43560 square feet . I will choose lowest CO2 value for wild grass and native plants : 2400 lbs CO2 per acre per year .

In 1 year , 17 acres of wild grass / native plants absorb : 2400 * 17 = 40800 lbs CO2 .
In 1 year , 17 acres of wild grass / native plants produce : 43560 * 0.5 * 17 * 365 = 135144900 kg O2 .
1 kg = 2.2 lbs so 135144900 kg = 135144900 * 2.2 = 297318780 lbs O2 .


The original O2 value of 26 acres before US build NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction are :2028000 + 297318780 =299346780 lbs O2 for creating O2 per year .
The original CO2 value of 26 acres before Us build NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction are :374400 + 40800 = 415200 lbs CO2 for absorbing CO2 per year .



After US build NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction , they choose grassland in front of the building :
If US use best grass type and I choose highest CO2 value according Dr .RanajitSahu : 3600 CO2 lbs per year so the value of CO2 of 26 acres of grassland can absorb of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction :

26 * 3600 = 93600 lbs CO2 per year .
And the value O2 of 26 acres of grassland :43560 * 0.5 * 365 * 26 = 206692200 kg O2 .
1 kg = 2.2 lbs so 206692200 * 2.2 = 454722840 lbs O2 .



NASA assumes each person needs 1.9 pounds of oxygen per day , I choose 2 lbs O2 for short . Employees in US work 5 days per week and 12 days for annual leave ( Wiki ) .1 year = 52 weeks = 365 days
So total day 800 employee work at NOAA per year is : 365 – ( 52 * 2 ) – 12 = 249 days
800 employees work 249 days and each employee work 8 hours per day so they need : ( 800 * 2 lbs O2 )* 249 = ( 800* 2 ) * 249 / 3 = 398400 lbs O2 / 3 =132800 lbs per year .

According to Wiki , 1 person emit approximately 2.3 CO2 lbs per day per person so value of CO2 800 employee of NOAA work 249 days and each employee work 8 hours per day is : ( 2.3 * 800 ) * 249 / 3 = 152720 lbs per year .

A car emit about 8.2 kg CO2 per one gallon of gasoline. A car in US emit average 16,940 pounds CO2 per year. 800 employees work 249 days in NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction .If 800 employees use cars so the CO2 pollution value of NOAA’s employees when they use car to go to work is :
( 16940 / 365 * 249 ) * 800 = 9245063 lbs CCO2 per year .
9245063 lbs CO2 is a estimate CO2 value when 800 employees of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction go to work by cars .
According to http://jg2090.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09...0-pounds-of-co2

A gallon of gasoline weighs 6.3 pounds and is comprised of 87% Carbon (C) and 13% HydrogenA CO2 molecule has one carbon atom (atomic weight 12) and two oxygen atoms (atomic weight of 16 each). A carbon atom has a weight of 12, and each oxygen atom has a weight of 16, giving each single molecule of CO2 an atomic weight of 44 (12 from carbon and 32 from oxygen).

Therefore, to calculate the amount of CO2 produced from a gallon of gasoline, the weight of the carbon in the gasoline is multiplied by 44/12 or 3.7.
Since gasoline is about 87% carbon and 13% hydrogen by weight, the carbon in a gallon of gasoline weighs 5.5 pounds (6.3 lbs. x .87).

We can then multiply the weight of the carbon (5.5 pounds) by 3.7, which equals 20 pounds of CO2.
A H2O molecule has two Hydrogen atoms (atomic weight 1) and one oxygen atom (atomic weight of 16 each). Each Hydrogen atom has a weight of 1, and the oxygen atom has a weight of 16, giving each single molecule of H20 an atomic weight of 18 (2 from Hydrogen and 16 from oxygen).
Therefore, to calculate the amount of H2O produced from a gallon of gasoline, the weight of the Hydrogen in the gasoline is multiplied by 18/2 or 9.

Since gasoline is about 87% carbon and 13% hydrogen by weight, the Hydrogen in a gallon of gasoline weighs 0.8 pounds (6.3 lbs. x .13). We can then multiply the weight of the Hydrogen (0.8 pounds) by 9, which equals 7 pounds of H2O or water and water vapor.
How is 21 pounds of Oxygen removed from the atmosphere?:
The combined total weight of the CO2 and the H2O produced by the burning of one gallon of gasoline is 27 pounds. Since we started with one gallon of gas that weighed 6.3 pounds, the amount of Oxygen converted to H2O or CO2 by burning the gasoline is (27-6.3) or 21.7 pounds.
This 21 pounds of breathable Oxygen was removed from the atmosphere by passing through your car's air filter, through the engine, and out the tailpipe as H2O and CO2.

So each 20 lbs CO2 we need 21.7 lbs O2 . 9245063 lbs CO2 is a estimate CO2 value when 800 employees of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction go to work by cars so the value of O2 we need is : 9707316 lbs O2 .
So this is the total info :



The 26 acres of trees / wild grass / native plants of original of NOAA can absorb 4.42 % CO2 of 800 employees and 800 cars every year when they work or go to NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction .
The 26 acres of grassland in front of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction ( after US build the building ) can absorb < 1% CO2 of employees and 800 cars every year when they work or go to NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction because 1% of 9397783 = 93977.83 and I estimate CO2 value grassland can absorb is 93600 lbs .We don’t care about O2 . Things really need is how many lbs CO2 we can decrease . The design of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction area decrease smaller CO2 than the original area of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction area . It’s not good when CO2 level are increasing everyday .
Next I will calculate the water can absorb by plants between 26 acres original area and 260 acres grassland after they build NOAA . I will choose the wild grass / native plants can absorb half of mas of water the present grass type of NOAA can absorb and in 1 day have 1 time rain .
The average 10,000-square-foot lawn can absorb more than 6,000 gallons of water from a rainfall event, limiting the potential for runoff. (University of Missouri Extension) .

1 acre = 43560 square foot so 26 acres can absorb : ( 43560 / 10000 ) * 26 * 6000 = 4.356 * 26 * 6000 = 679536 gallons water in 1 day have 1 time rain – the is mass of water 26 acres of grassland can absorb in 1 day in front of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction . The building is a candidate for silver certification by the U.S. Green Building Council’s LEED™ Green Building Rating System ( Source – NOAA ) .

And original area of 26 acres in front of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction :
Because 17 acres of wild grass and native plant can absorb half of mass of water the present grass type in front of NOAA Center for weather and Climate prediction can absorb so 17 original acres of wild grass and native plant can absorb : ( 43560 / 10000 ) * 17 * 3000 = 4.356 * 17 * 3000 = 222156 gallons water .

According to multi – sources :
American forest organization :http://www.americanforests.org/discover-forests/tree-facts/ .
North Carolina State University : http://www.ncsu.edu/project/treesofstrength/treefact.htm
http://forestry.about.com/od/treephysiology/p/tree_water.htm
http://www.ask.com/answers/49918861/how-much-water-does-a-tree-absorb-in-a-day
http://www.ask.com/question/how-much-water-does-a-tree-absorb-in-a-day
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1 tree can absorb 50 – 100 gallons water per day . date of the black and white picture , base on Google Earth – history image are 23rd April 1989 . And I choose 7800 trees here are adult trees , which 1 tree can absorb 100 gallons water per day . So 7800 adult trees of 26 original acres can absorb : 7800 * 100 = 780000 gallons water .




If 7800 trees are young trees absorb 50 gallons water each tree so total water 7800 trees can absorb : 7800 * 50 = 39000 gallons water . So the total water the original 26 acres of NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction can absorb in 1 day is : 222156 + 390000 = 612156 gallons water if all the trees are young trees . 222156 + 780000 = 1002156 gallons water if all the trees are mature trees .



When I take a look at this image with the date : 1989 I really think that all trees are mature trees , can absorb 100 gallons water per day per tree . Even if someone estimate 1 acre only have 120 trees , the value of CO2 can absorbed by trees can be 149760 lbs per year and bigger than ….. , this still a really bad design environment .
Generally , about CO2 and water , the design of 26 acres in front of this building is bad .



All the small images in the picture are National Research Council of Canada , five building , five area , how many lbs CO2 can be decreased ? I don’t know . Do they do CO2 research level every day ? Do they have a speech at Climate summit 2013 at Warsaw ? Except all the areas , in the future they will build something , if not it's really bad area when we think about Climate Change , Rising Sea Water .



Cambridge University on the left and NATO Headquarter on the right have the same problem like NOAA CWCP .



The positions are Central park of USA , a park in UAE , an un know name park ,…… If we design a park like this , it’s better than we keep the original area , don’t touch anything .

This problem appear all around the world . On my blogspot , I have about 193 building have the same problem , a lot of universities around this world , a lot of industrial area have the same design like NOAA CWCP , a lot of parks …… and more inside my computer . If we fix all the areas have problem , we can raise our head when talk about Climate Change at Climate summit , if not it’s just like a joke when government , scientist talk about Climate , CO2 level , ….. Please do not think too far , look at your position you’re working right now or your home first . How many position on this world can have this problem ?
The US, a country of around 301 million people has around 125 million houses [all housing data come from the American Housing Survey of the United States, published by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development every two years, most recently in August 2006, available here].
So in US , at least more than 1 million positions have this type of problem like NOAA CWCP because all the architecture found a area with trees , destroyed that place , build a house and than place some trees of course will smaller than number of trees original area . I don’t want to talk about this .
All I want to say are all public buildings belong to government , parks , organizations , universities , companies , industrial area ( I found a lot off positions inside my country and outside my country ) , non government organization , buildings , school , college , ……. On my blogspot , I have more than 193 positions belong to many countries , on my PC , I have more than that , ….. Perhaps around this world can have 193 000 position like this or more than that , 1 000 000 position , ……
I really hope all organizations when you have this document will help me officially talk about this problem to help the world fix this problem . When Climate is Changing , and Climate Summit at Warsaw have a amazing result enough to disappoint people , keep silent about this look like a crime when we can fix a lot of positions have this problem . Really huge problem . BECAUSE ABSORB MAXIMUM CO2 / WATER IS NOT A STANDARD OF US GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL . All try to reduce CO2 , not try to absorb maximum CO2 as they can , weakness of our standards . O2 is not as important as CO2 at climate summit . Even I have a better way to calculate but my accuracy belong to data I found . This is my best . If you have a better data , show me but I confirm that NOAA CWCP ‘s environment is a worst design if we think about CO2 / water but good about O2 .

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Please zoom into the image and read all standards of US Green Building Council . Is there a rate of CO2 / water / O2 must absorb / create base on environmental area around the building to decrease pollution come from people / cars of building ?

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This is part 1 . Part 2 will come next in 1 or 2 days

You still haven't addressed the fact that this is not a long term solution to the problem. Plants can absorb CO2, but they don't hold it for long periods. When they die the CO2 is returned to the atmosphere unless some way is found to sequester it.

Bill Gill

I ABSOLUTALY AGRREE WITH YOU about Algae . But our earth have many different kind of topography , we can't bring water to all the mountains... , all the valleys , ... for Algae . In front of your house and my house , and everybody's house , we can't let our kids play with Algae all days . No one build a building than bring water and place Algae in front of the building

I like Algae

we dont decrease the weight of the earth by burning petrol/gas
the petrol/gas is converted into other forms.

This is the green LEED standard :

When we do research Climate research , we have many results just like the temperature of Earth or many locations , areas increase or decrease , we know how strong a storm , tornado is , the speed of storm ,we know how many storm ….. . We know ocean , plants absorb CO2 / water and create O2 , ….. . We have many data system . It’s really good . I – Huynh Phu Dat really respect your works , scientific work . And than many scientific reports appear on many respective magazine like Nature , ….. . with amazing definition for solving Climate Change : decreasing CO2 will solve Climate Change . I can’t understand why all of you – real scientist - do that . Why tell your governments and human kind a answer like that ? We need focus more on Climate Change and CO2 / water are main problems .
Even how great the data results you have , about Earth , Plants , Ocean , Atmosphere , …. Please realize : the CO2 of atmosphere is increasing because ocean , plants , land , ……..CAN’T ABSORB ALL CO2 , Or :
Value of CO2 pollution of human kind > Value of CO2 that plants , ocean , lands , …………… can absorb . Well done , NOAA CWCP when finished NOAA CWCP building at 2009 . And Value of CO2 pollution of human kind minus Value of CO2 that plants , ocean , lands , …………… can absorb => value of CO2 pollution increased of atmosphere .
If the value of ocean , plants , land , …… totally absorb 1 lbs CO2 every year . And we create 2 lbs CO2 every year . So ocean , plants , land absorb 1 lbs CO2 . 2 – 1 = 1 . 1 lbs is a value that ocean , plants , land , …. can’t absorb . Solving CO2 pollution by decreasing CO2 emission sound great and what is the limit of CO2 that land , ocean , plants can absorb? Can 7 000 000 000 human kind decrease CO2 pollution to the limit of CO2 than land , ocean , plants , ….. can absorb ? Please remember we destroy forest everyday and our population is increasing every day . China is a very polluted 1 billions citizens country , it’s nice to see China now allow family can have more than 1 child , what will happen with polluted 2 600 000 000 citizens country ? What is the limit of China’s population base on China’s area ?
What is the limit of the population the world should have ? Shall the population should keep about 5 or 6 billion . Is it the time we stop increase population ? Is each country base on area , have a limit of population and population of each country should smaller than that because of limit of CO2’s pollution of each country include land , plants , ocean , ….. can absorb .
I don’t believe CO2 pollution of human can decrease equal with value of CO2 that plants , ocean , lands , …………… can absorb at least in next 5 or 10 years .
Perhaps we can’t solve all human pollution , but begin with small part like building , we can have a better hope . I am working with part 2 . I hope I can finish this work in 2 or 3 days .

...You seem to easily see the root of the problem.

Yes, over 100 gigatonnes (billion metric tons) of carbon is cycled (from CO2, into biomass, and back to CO2) annually through the seasons by nature; so cutting our emissions by a few hundred million tons, or even a few billion tons of carbon, will not help much.
But if just a few percent of that biomass could annually be shunted into stable soil carbon, then we could partially offset out emissions while also improving the earth’s ability to “soak” up the rest of our (hopefully reduced) emissions.

A recent report from the American Society for Microbiology explains how we can solve many poverty, hunger, and disease problems (globally) by improving our soils... to better partner with the soil microbes, so that plant productivity is improved and pollution is reduced
[ http://academy.asm.org/index.php/browse-all-reports/800-how-microbes-can-help-feed-the-world ].
The best way to partner with soil microbes is to provide the best soil possible; restoring degraded soils, improving marginal soils, and conserving and maintaining good soils.

Soil structure, chemistry, biology, biodiversity, and nutrient retention are naturally improved by adding “stable soil carbon” to the soil. Charred biomass is the easiest and cheapest way to add stable carbon to the soil, especially if the biomass is local waste from either agricultural, municipal, or household sources. Charred biomass also slows the decay of humus in the soil, which allows more labile carbon (unstable carbon that can more easily be oxidized into off-gassed CO2) to be stored in the soil without being oxidized. This creates “richer” soils, compared with similar (parent) soils that do not have the extra added and retained carbon.

Charred biomass, also called charcoal, can be used as a soil amendment... instead of as a fuel. Especially if the charcoal is produced using “green” technologies and practices (and the charcoal is used as a soil amendment), then the charred biomass is called biochar. Search: International Biochar Initiative [ http://www.biochar-international.org/ ], for loads of connections, resources, research, and projects. The biochar concept/name has sometimes also been used by “land-grabbers” as a part of green-washing their “project,” so don’t confuse the bad reports of a few uses with the many reports of beneficial uses, socio-economic co-benefits, and potential environmental benefits.

The green technology to create charred biomass is called pyrolysis, which is basically “burning” biomass in low-oxygen conditions. When not enough oxygen is available, much of the biomass turns into solid char, instead of oxidizing into CO2. There are stoves which can be used for cooking, which convert raw waste biomass into charcoal through an almost smoke-free process. The smoke is converted into charcoal also, so much less smoke is released. People could make their own, if they already cook with open fire.

Pyrolysis can also be done on an industrial scale, to support large-scale agricultural application of charred soil carbon, which should be a valuable new economic sector of any sustainable economy.

Reading, or just reading about, the book by Ruddiman, called “Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum” [ http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8014.html ] and Pyne’s “Vestal Fire” [ http://www.washington.edu/uwpress/search/books/PYNVES.html ] will show you how your basic perspective is very insightful... and basically correct... even if your solutions are focused on minor parts of the larger problem of a global agricultural (and total ocean/forestry/ag resource harvesting) system that is unsustainably degrading the planet’s ability to absorb CO2 naturally. Have you heard about dead zones, peak phosphorus, or the extra nitrogen being added to the global system?

Meeting with a biogeochemist recently (Chair of the Soil & Crop Sciences Dept.), I was shocked to learn just how recently the carbon-rich, best agricultural soils (Mollisols and Chernozems) developed (or evolved), here on our planet. It is only just within the past few million years, at the end of the Cenozoic and during the Quaternary period. They are sometimes also called “interglacial” soils, and we have barely begun to realize what a powerful and precious resource they constitute.
A land of milk and honey will be found where the land is filled with rich grasses, honeybees, and earthworms. Look into the evolution of the temperate grasses, honeybees, and earthworms, and see how recently they all came to predominance.

Learn also about the Rhizosphere, the new frontier that will provide for our future, if we learn to manage it sustainably; that is, fulfilling our destiny as masters of both fire and our domain... the land and its biodiversity.

~ Good Luck!

p.s. I have an old presentation on this topic, many slides of which can be viewed at:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4982370396231&l=441fac41d8

How to solve NOAA CWCP problem ? When CO2 pollution become 0 , can we solve Climate Change ?

NOAA CWCP base on 50 acres area . 24 acres for building , 26 acres for grassland .

So first they need to re - create the 26 acres become grassland + ( 300 trees / per acre * 26 )

And because of A0 = A1 " + " A2 . If the Earth only have 1 building create CO2 pollution , so even they we have more 26 acres back to normal ( we must wait about 15 years for all the trees become adult so they can absorb 48 lbs CO2 per year ) , we lost 24 acres for the building , 24 acres never can absorb CO2 / water as the past . So we need more 24 acres of grassland + ( 300 trees * 26 acres ) . We use area for building , we must have another area with same size for replacement .

And for pollution of 800 cars , we need more area with plants to absorb CO2 of 800 cars . Relly plant more trees or plants , and not base on the original Earth - Original Earth don't have 1 building NOAA CWCP .

So how many State of US have a rule : you spent 1 square foot for the building , you must find another 1 square foot don't have trees , plants and then plant trees / plants for replacement 1square foot of building you build .

And the owner / company / org of the building must solve CO2 of cars of employees .

We build a city near a forest and then increase the size of the city , destroy forest , the area of the city ( house , road , buildings , ......... will under cement , stone , .... not asorb CO2 / water anymore ) . We need absorbing source of CO2 / water for replacement . All countries did it , all countries have the same !!!!

US EPA Region 5 Cleveland Office:25089 Center Ridge Road
Westlake, OH 44145-4170 . EPA Science and Ecological System Support Division 980 College Station Rd Athens, Georgia 30605
. Where is my absorbing source of CO2 / water for replacement when they destroy forest for EPA buildings ? This is what a United States Environmental Protection Agency can do in Climate Change ?

Even CO2 of cars , nucleAR POWER PLANT , Coal power plants , planes , ... become 0 , we still make Climate Change .

Next will be a exercise .

50 - 26 = 24 . The replacement of NOAA CWCP is 24 acres , not 26 acres

I have a question : when I use Google search for land absorb CO2 . I can't find the land , type , soil , ..... under the cement , the floor , the stone , sidewalk , asphalt , .... or under skyscraper , can them absorb CO2 like before they built every thing above them ? It's not like natural soil , things we can plant every kind of plants . And cement , the floor , the stones , bricks , sidewalk , asphalt , ...... all things we use to create the surface of a city , can it absorb CO2 ? Thank you .

( Please correct me if I was wrong )

( Our forefathers , ancestors should know this truth thousand years ago , ..... sadly )

A Earth before human kind appear is fresh by large amount of plants around the Earth . Human appear( 1 ) . We change the Earth , build house , road , building , airport , stadium , ............ exploit wood ( 2 ) . And we , our cars , bus , plane , gas , oil .....create CO2 ( 3 ) .

Here , just focus on O2 , CO2 , water of area :

( 1 ) This is a environment before human appear :



We mainly choose to build society near a place have water , rivers and that place will have plants . Or original Earth , original area have plants . Or original Earth , original area create O2 , absorbs CO2 / water . Than we build our society :

(2 )




Ex : we use 100 square acres for a building , 50 acres for a building , 50 ACRES FOR GRASSLAND . 100 acres in the past have adult trees , wild grass . So if we restore the environment after build the building , we MUST MAKE 50 ACRES IN PRESENT ABSORB CO2 VALUE = CO2 ABSORBING VALUE OF 100 ACRES OF TREES + WILD GRASS IN THE PAST . It’s meant about value of CO2 , O2 , water , after human use this area , it’s doesn’t change . It’s equal between past and present . Human don’t decrease absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value of that area . If after human restore the 50 acres and absorbing CO2 / water , creating O2 value less than 100 acres of the past , so we must find another area and create plants that absorb CO2 / water , create O2 in supply for the absorbing CO2 / water, creating O2 that we need , want . CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 .

Have you ever stand in front of a row of trees ,on the left are some skyscrapers , on the right is a road . Just imagine the environment in the past of area of all building’s size , the floor and the environment of the road . So the question is : The value of absorbing CO2/ water value , creating O2 value will equal with value of absorbing CO2 /water , creating O2 of the area of all skyscrapers ( left area ) add with the area of the row of trees in the past , what was here ( between ) add with value of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 of the environment of the road in the past ( right ) . Think about CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 .

We build a lot of roads . And a road go through a wild grass area , bush trees , a forest . Roads decrease of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value of wild grass area , forest , …… We don’t have a CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 .

Have you ever see aairport ? No plants at landing field .If we destroy all plants for airport . We should find a empty place , and plant any kind plants , to make it replace absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value = value of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 of the airport’s environment ( plants )in the past .

And many things more , ………

All the process is 100 % comparison of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value of the past and the present , for CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 .

All CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of buildings , roads , house …. Add with CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of forest we destroy , exploit for wood .
CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of buildings , roads , house , forests , ….. => CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of town , city , state , ……. => CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of country => CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of Earth’s plants .

After we have CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , O2 of Earth’s plants . ( original Earth )

Add with :
(3)

We know cars , bus , ship , plane absorb O2 , create CO2 , CO2 of fossil fuel , gas , …….. So we must have area of plants for of absorbing CO2 , creating O2 if we don’t want CO2 from these things are our problem .

The architecture don’t know about CONSERVATION OF CO2 , WATER , no one know it before .

And no one can confirm land , soil in a city , town which under asphalt , rock , boardwalk , …. Will absorb , store CO2 equal with natural land , soil before we build city , town ( plants have root , root make land become good quality , and which asphalt , boardwalk , stone , brick above , no plant’s roots under it )

Just walk into town , city , look around and calculate . Even your city , town design with 70 % for plants and 30 % for buildings , house , it's not correct .

Even how large average plants size per each persong you have , it's not base on CO2 , O2 , water . Plants have different type , some absorb a lot of CO2 , some are just for fun .

So things are not simple .

Update Time

The CO2 of atmosphere is increasing because of emitting CO2 value of cars , bus , human , …. Bigger than absorbing CO2 value of plants , lands , ocean , …….



Compare time :

Decreasing CO2 solution until this solution can absorb CO2 of atmosphere : Only Red go down .



Decreasing CO2 and increasing CO2 absorbing at the same time make the absorbing CO2 of atmosphere Process begin faster .



When both Red move down and Green move up , the process will faster than just only Red go down – or we only choose decreasing CO2 .

This is a present for my friend Sam A . Mitchell - samwik . Happy Birthday . All the best for you .

Thanks for that! It is nice to see somebody else thinks we need to not only reduce the CO2 emissions, but also increase the absorption (biosequestration) of the already emitted CO2, to restore stability in temperate-zone climates especially, the stability of the arctic, and climate stability in general.

The carbon-richness in soils, which is critical to restoring and maintaining productive soils, comes from CO2 that plants have converted into "root exudates" that then "feed" and help grow the soil.
Just the large water content, of healthy soils, acts as a huge thermal buffer ...in regional climate systems.
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Mostly, high-tech strategies for cutting emissions are being developed and/or implemented. Only a very few emission-cutting strategies use natural (low-tech) means, and none of these(? that I know of) recognize the "carbon negative" potential in some strategies ...such as growing more productive soils!

See: http://cmi.princeton.edu/wedges/intro.php

& the teacher's guide at: http://cmi.princeton.edu/wedges/pdfs/teachers_guide.pdf

See also, general info at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilization_Wedge_Game
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So to grow more productive soils:
The most significant advance toward recognizing the significance of carbon-rich soils (Mollisols & Chernozems) for developing productivity and for stabilizing atmospheric carbon levels, comes from a recent report by the American Society for Microbiology; and there is a description and link to the pdf report at: http://academy.asm.org/index.php/browse-all-reports/800-how-microbes-can-help-feed-the-world ...

The actual report in .pdf format can be found above or searched online under: HOW MICROBES CAN HELP FEED THE WORLD [2013].

It's not about eating microbes, but rather about using microbes to help build and maintain carbon-rich, productive soils.
Here are the page numbers, for some key points I've been ranting about since 2011, in that ASM report, "How microbes can help feed the world [2013]."

The significance of evolutionary relationships is highlighted well on page 6-7, especially the first two sentences (of main text) on p.6 ...and the first paragraph on p.7 ...plus the hilarious line ...about the evolution of plants:
"How did they [plants] manage to avoid being consumed, especially since they cannot run away?"

There is also a fascinating chart on page 9.

And then on page 12, in the last paragraph, is the most significant information (new discovery), which I have been promoting in one of my "slides" ...about the rhizosphere.

"It has been estimated that up to 30% of a plant's primary production (that is, the amount of carbon the plant turns into organic matter through photosynthesis) actually leaves the plant as exudate into the soil; the microbes must be making a fairly substantial contribution to earn such a high investment of the plant's resources."
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If you want to learn about all the connections between civilization and land use, then some good books to read (or just read summaries of) would be:

Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum ...by Ruddiman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plows,_Plagues_and_Petroleum

Vestal Fire ...by Pyne
http://www.washington.edu/uwpress/search/books/PYNVES.html
...with table of contents!

Changes in the Land ...by Cronin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changes_in_the_Land:_Indians,_Colonists,_and_the_Ecology_of_New_England
& http://www.rsiss.net/ecology/changesinland.html
(review © 2003 by Justin Symington and RSiSS [Religious Studies in Secondary Schools] Palmer Trinity School; Miami, Florida)

Larding the Lean Earth ...by Stoll
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/steven-stoll/larding-the-lean-earth/
& http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=9321
"Phosphorus is one of the nutrient elements essential for plant growth, and when farmers run out of it they buy it from quarries in Florida. After corn rich in Florida phosphorus rises on the Illinois prairie, it is sold to New England dairy farmers, who feed it to their Holsteins. The cows void what they can't use. Now at least three times displaced, the phosphorus is discharged into the watershed of the Connecticut River Valley, where it leaches through grainy tilth to foul steams and groundwater. There are all sorts of overlapping cycles linking agriculture to the rest of nature, not all of them beneficial. Soil fertility now depends on far-flung networks and can be implicated in the debasement of ecological systems, but this was not always so."

1491 ...by Mann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1491:_New_Revelations_of_the_Americas_Before_Columbus

Enjoy your homework!
~SA

A real homework !!!

Actually , after I read environmental law of some countries , and LEED rating systems , and many " green " system . I can confirm : we have Global serious errors of design . And it's sad when design our world in some thousand years

...I think (but I want to confirm) that when you are talking about “Serious errors of design” and "environmental laws," that you mean how:

1.) These environmental laws only focus upon cutting CO2 emissions (by building more efficiently designed structures, using “greener” materials, cutting wastes, etc.); but that those environmental laws don’t focus on the “already stored carbon” (soil + biomass such as trees/plants/grasses, roots, insects, microbes, and even animals), nor do those laws focus upon the “natural” or previous or new absorption RATES by the biosphere of ambient levels of carbon (current and new emissions) in the atmosphere.

2.) And basically, all the building and paving, which civilization does, is reducing the planet’s natural ability to soak up CO2.

3.) And also, if we increased the planet’s ability to soak up CO2, then our extra emissions would be turned into fertile new soil.

4.) Therefore, we should “offset” whatever soil capacity that exists (for absorbing and storing carbon), which is lost by building and paving, with an equal or greater capacity to absorb and store carbon somewhere else ...to maintain the balance ...of carbon absorption and storage by healty soils.
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Thanks!
~

So if our scientists advice the all governments continue reduce CO2 at Climate summit 2014 , what will happen ? Sad for 7 billions people . Right now only some people can read some topic about this problem " Climate Change and Serious errors of design " know the truth is not just simple like that . And almost 7 bllions people still waiting

Have you ever hear the soaking up CO2 value of the Earth increase ?

The environmental law have a problem . And We have to fix that . For each position in a city , that is save every position of city , make people find some where and re -plant plants for re -archieving absorbing CO2 of the past .

This is a part of my manuscript :



This is Google Earth image of United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 4 Science and Ecosystem Support Division , 980 College Station Road Athens, Georgia 30605-2720 (SESD ).
Left picture use Google data , date 1993 . Right picture , date 2012

Total facility area : 66,201 gross square feet ( GSF ) . To build United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 4 Science and Ecosystem Support Division need 66,201 gross square feet of forest .I use Google and with dense density of forest here , I estimate 1 acre tree here have 300 trees per acre . 1 acre = 43560 square feet . So 66201 gross square feet / 43560 = 1.5 so in the past here we had : 300* 1.5 = 450 trees .

"A single mature tree can absorb carbon dioxide at a rate of 48 lbs per year- McAliney, Mike. Arguments for Land Conservation: Documentation and Information Sources for Land Resources Protection, Trust for Public Land, Sacramento, CA, December, 1993

On average, one tree produces nearly 260 pounds of oxygen each year. Two mature trees can provide enough oxygen for a family of four. Environment Canada, Canada's national environmental agency

So in 1 year 450 trees of 66,201 gross square feet can absorb CO2 : 48 * 450 = 21600 lbs CO2 .
In 1 year 450 trees here create O2 : 260 * 450 = 117000 lbs O2 .

According to United States Environmental Protection Agency ‘s website ,
http://www.epa.gov/region4/sesd/sesd.html
http://www.epa.gov/region4/sesd/about.html
http://www.epa.gov/oaintrnt/facilities/athens-sesd.htm

And 2011 report of US EPA : http://www.epa.gov/region4/ej/Jacksonville_EJ_FINAL.pdf

United States Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t have a plan to re - plant 450 trees for overcome the environmental damage here in Climate Change . If we think about conservation of absorbing CO2 , and creating O2 , Earth today lost : 21600 lbs CO2 of absorbing and 117000 lbs of creating in Climate Change age , when we really need to increase absorbing CO2 of plants . Or Earth today absorb CO2 smaller than Earth of the past 21600 lbs CO2 and creating O2 smaller Earth of the past 117000 lbs CO2


because of United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 4 Science and Ecosystem Support Division , 980 College Station Road Athens, Georgia 30605-2720 (SESD ).




This is a parking area at United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 5 , Cleveland Office , 25089 Center Ridge Road Westlake , OH 44145 – 4170 , USA .
Date of left picture is 1994 , right is 2014
I use Google Earth measure the areaand have a result : 108900 gross square feet . To increase the size of parking area , US destroy a 108900 square feet of forest . Forest here has a dense density so I choose 1 acre have 300 trees so 108900 square feet have : 108900 / 43560 = 2.5 so total trees here in 1994 is 750 trees .

So in 1 year 750 trees 108900 square feetcan absorb CO2 : 48 * 750 = 36000 lbs CO2 .
In 1 year 450 trees here create O2 : 260 * 750 = 195000 lbs O2 .


According to United States Environmental Protection Agency’s website :
http://www2.epa.gov/aboutepa/epa-region-5

US EPA Region 5 , Cleveland Office don’t have a plan to re – create 750 trees after they destroy environment of this area to build the parking area . So about conservation of CO2 and O2 , the 2014 Earth absorb CO2 less than the Earth 1994 36000 lbs CO2 and the 2014 Earth create O2 less than the Earth 1994 195000 lbs O2 because of parking area at United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 5 , Cleveland Office , 25089 Center Ridge Road Westlake , OH 44145 – 4170 , USA . Because I only can choose what Google Earth have and the historical image of Google Earth only can move to the past 1994 , if I can move farer , I can prove the whole truth United States Environmental Protection Agency Region 5 , Cleveland Office , 25089 Center Ridge Road Westlake , OH 44145 – 4170 , USA


Green building – LEED green standard are followed by Argentina Green Building Council , Green Building Council of Australia , Green Building Council Brasil , Peru Green Building Council , Canada Green Building Council Dutch Green Building Council , Emirates Green Building Council , France Green Building Council , German Sustainable Building Council , Indian Green Building Council Italy Green Building Council , Japan Green Building Consortium , Korea Green Building Council , Mexico Green Building Council New Zealand Green Building Council , Green Building Council of South Africa ,Sweden Green Building Council , Taiwan Green Building Council , Romania Green Building Council , United Kingdom Green Building , Council U.S. Green Building Council Vietnam Green Building Council and World Green Building Council , all are correct if we focus on conservation all environmental index ? Because all Climate summit focus on how can we decrease high CO2 level of atmosphere so on this article , we only analyzing absorbing CO2 value , creating O2 value of the environment of the past and the present of some buildings . I will analyze this green standard is good or not .


According to Wikipedia and US Green Building Council :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_in_Energy_and_Environmental_Design
http://www.usgbc.org/articles/qa-univers...ion-green-build

I will analyze University of Texas at Dallas , first academic building in Texas to receive LEED Platinum status. This is the area of University of Texas at Dallas :





I use Google Earth , date of image on the left : 2001 , date on the right : 2013 .

The wild grass area = 14.6 acres .

Mature grasslands sequester 2400 - 3600 lbsCO2 per acre each year – Technical Assessment of the Carbon Sequestration Potential of Managed Turfgrass in the United State ,Dr . RanajitSahu , 2008 at the request of the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute .

It is estimated that a 50 by 50 foot lawn (2,500 square feet), releases enough oxygen for a family of four, while absorbing carbon dioxide, hydrogen fluoride and perosyacetyle nitrate This means that one square foot of grass will produce approximately half a kilogram of oxygen a day .

I choose this type of grassland absorb lowest CO2 value : 2400 lbs CO2 per year . Because wild grass doesn’t cover 100 % percent of this area and I estimate 50 % percent of this area in 2001 cover by wild grass so

In 1 year 14.6 acres with 50% cover by wild grass absorb : 14.6 * 2400 * 50% = 17520 lbs CO2 per year .
In 1 year 14.6 acres with 50% cover by wild grass create : 43560 * 0.5 * 14.6 * 365 * 50% = 58152712 kg O2 .
1 kg = 2.2 lbs so 58152712 kg O2 * 2.2 = 127935966.4 lbs O2 .

University of Texas at Dallas doesn’t have a plan to re –create palnts can absorb 17520 lbs CO2 and create 58152712 lbs O2 . Because of University of Texas at Dallas - LEED Platinum certificate , Earth today lost 17520 lbs of absorbing CO2 , 58152712 lbs O2 of creating O2 .
We build a lot of roads . And a road go through a wild grass area , bush trees , a forests , …. Roads decrease of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value of wild grass area , forest , …… of all countries . And all countries don’t have conservative rule to re – create plants in replace for all plants area turn into roads area .
Have you ever see airport ? A really large area without plants . If we destroy all plants for airport’s area to build airport . We should find a empty place , and plant any kind plants , to make it replace absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 value = value of absorbing CO2 , water , creating O2 of the airport’s environment ( plants) in the past .
Even your city , town design with 70 % for plants and 30 % for building , house , it's not correct because conservation of CO2 , O2 , water need more 30 % of plants and this area of plants must absorb CO2 , water , create O2 value at least equal with absorb CO2 , water , create O2 value of 30 % of the past .
Before I write this article , none of any architecture know about conservation of CO2 , O2 even they design our city , town , ……. world thousand years ago . So the design problems of conservation of CO2 , O appear some thousand years ago .
According to Wiki : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_building

Reducing environmental impact : Green building practices aim to reduce the environmental impact of building. The first rule is that the greenest building is the building that doesn't get built. Since construction almost always degrades a building site, not building at all is preferable to green building, in terms of reducing environmental impact. The second rule is that every building should be as small as possible. The third rule is not to contribute to sprawl, even if the most energy-efficient, environmentally sound methods are used in design and construction. Urban infill sites are preferable to suburban "greenfield" sites .

The green building standard and our green standard have a serious mistake about conservation of CO2 , O2 because before people build the building , the area for a building usually have plants , trees , bush trees , wild grass , ….
After we build the building , plants , trees , bush trees , wild grass , …. ( which absorb CO2 , water , create O2 ) replace by building ( which doesn’t absorb CO2 , water , create O2 ) . After we build the building , compare between the past and the present , the area of the building lost a value of absorbing CO2 , water and creating O2 . According to conservation of CO2 , O2 , water of the past , for the conservation of the Earth at the present , we must find another area doesn’t have plants , than plant trees or any kind of plants to restore the absorbing CO2 and creating O2 ( in replace for plants of the past of building’s area ) value for the present .

Green building standard are followed by 19 countries around this world don’t force the owners of buildings
re – create the environment of the past to re – archive absorbing CO2 value and creating O2 value after they build the building .

All other protecting environmental definition , law systems don’t talk about conservation of absorbing CO2 , creating O2 :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_architecture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_design
http://green.wikia.com/wiki/LEED_Certification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_in_Energy_and_Environmental_Design

International Environmental Law : https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=132294
United States Environmental Protection : http://www2.epa.gov/laws-regulations

Australia: Nabers / Green Star / BASIX (in NSW only)
Brazil: AQUA / LEED Brasil
Canada: LEED Canada / Green Globes / Built Green Canada
China: GBAS
Finland: PromisE
France: HQE
Germany: DGNB / CEPHEUS
Hong Kong: BEAM Plus
India: Indian Green Building Council (IGBC)/ GBCIndia (Green Building Construction India)/ GRIHA
Indonesia: Green Building Council Indonesia (GBCI) / Greenship
Italy: Protocollo Itaca / Green Building Council Italia
Japan: CASBEE
Jordan: Jordan Green Building Council
Korea, Republic of: Green Building Certification Criteria / Korea Green Building Council
Malaysia: GBI Malaysia
Mexico: LEED Mexico
Netherlands: BREEAM Netherlands
New Zealand: Green Star NZ
Pakistan: Pakistan Green Building Council
Philippines: BERDE / Philippine Green Building Council
Portugal: Lider A / SBToolPT®
Qatar: Qatar Sustainability Assessment System (QSAS)
Republic of China (Taiwan): Green Building Label
Singapore: Green Mark
South Africa: Green Star SA
Spain: VERDE
Switzerland: Minergie
United States: LEED / Living Building Challenge / Green Globes / Build it Green / NAHB NGBS / International Green Construction Code (IGCC) / ENERGY STAR
United Kingdom: BREEAM
United Arab Emirates: Estidama
Turkey : CEDB&#304;K
Thailand : TREES
Vietnam: LOTUS Rating Tools
Czech Republic: SBToolCZ

The protecting environmental laws system , green standard help to decrease absorbing CO2 value and decrease creating O2 value of the Earth today .
Our Earth have Global Serious Errors of Design .

To all members of this forum can read this message , to Bill Gill , paul , Bill S , Amaranth Rose II , ..... , all Journalists who are reading this topic , ....

My name is Huynh Phu Dat , a graphic designer , a amateur scientist . When Climate Change’s disasters attacked my country 3 or 4 years ago and than I knew not only my country but a lot of countries have the same problem , I cried several times . Than I focus on Climate Change . I used to go to park and I ask myself why choose to many grassland areas but not plant as much trees as possible ? Than I focus on buildings and ask myself why after re –create the environment , the environment always worse if compare with environment with the past about CO2 , O , water . Than I have the fomular . In Climate Change , it’s a BURDEN of CONSCIENCE because if I know about the truth and can’t warn people , sin’s complex will follow me until I die . And even when I’m a soul , sin’s complex will never disappear if I can continue to see human kind decreasing CO2 but number of Climate Change ‘s disaster only increase & more direful .
I need to warn 7 billions people and their goverments . I submit some manuscripts to Nature Climate , but they didn’t publish them . I think I have problem about language barrier and the way I explain about Global Serious Errors of design was not good and I don’t have a real scientific language like a scientist . If I re –create my manuscript to warn peole and send to Nature or any scientific magazine , can you help me ?
Can you help me ? I really need help to warn people ? Just 1 manuscript . I don’t ask you for help with a conduct of a graphic designer or scientist , I ask you with a conduct of 1 human being ask others human being for help because all of you and me can feel the pain when your countries and mine , your citizens and mine are attacked by Climate Change’s disasters . I think all of you just want to stop Climate Change , and me too .
I know a little about design and all of you have knowledge and scientific language .
Can some members here help me with my warning manuscript ? I need someone teach me or work with me , if you work with me with this manuscript , you are co – author of this manuscript .
Thank you .


p/s : about plants : many scientists and civil engineers, they all think that any carbon absorbed by the biosphere is just recycled back into the atmosphere within the next year or so ...as that biomass dies and decomposes into methane or carbon dioxide and water. If you think that , I think you're bad at protecting environment . It’s just make me think that all these people protect environment really bad at effect or they’re not at effective at all . If plant 100 trees and 1 tree die after 1 or 2 years or even 10 tens trees die , yes I can accept that but with all 100 trees die or here all scientists and civil engineers think 100 % percent tree die . so fire all people work to keep trees , plants alive when they can’t do their work good , actually , if 30 % plants die is enough to consider about the effect of their work . If we earn money by keeping trees , plants alive , we only can continue our work and earn money if we can keep them alive . Plants have many different type , some are good at against hot weather or cold weather , some can against bugs , some can absorb huge CO2 , value , we should choose the best in our opinions . All kind of plants some day will die . But more day they can live , more CO2 can be absorb . So if we plant more plants , and more plants only alive in 10 years , and in 10 years , it make absorbing CO2 of Earth bigger than emitting CO2 of Earth so that is 10 years we decrease CO2 of atmosphere . And ten years Earth’s weather become stable and 10 years less Climate Change ‘s disasters . Before they die or we should never let they die ( ^ ^ ) , they already absorb a lot of CO2 of atmosphere . And before they die , we have time for a next generation of plants will grow to continue absorb CO2 . And when the plants of this generation die , we need value of next generation plants bigger or can absorb bigger CO2 value than emitting CO2 value of dead plants of this generation . Considering about Earth of the past , perhaps the Climate is stable because even trees , plants still die everyday , but living trees are large enough to absorb all emitting CO2 of dead trees , plants .

Huynh Phu Dat,
You definitely need some help with your English. Have you considered hiring a professional copy editor? It would be best if you could find one who speaks your language and English both, so that your ideas will be translated more accurately. I wish you good luck.

I can go ahead and tell you that if your ideas stand in the
way of monetary gain then the prospect of those ideas ever being
put into practice on a large scale is really small.

it seems that focusing on ways to patch problems or I could
say to treat problems is the way to go.

there has been ways to avoid pollution for decades now but
look at the skies in china , if you can see them at all.

likewise , CO2 can be mechanically sealed up inside lime.

but search for how many people are doing it.












and power it with

To paul : I answer your post .

“ I can go ahead and tell you that if your ideas stand in the
way of monetary gain then the prospect of those ideas ever beingput into practice on a large scale is really small.

Please don’t call ideas , but call them mistakes or errors , …. It’s accurate and better .About monetary gain , please remember 1 thing : If we choose a position with plants , trees around than destroy that place for a building . After you don’t pay money for re – plant the plants , trees at some place , perhaps in front of your building , so we should suffer a bad reputation , especially with United State Environmental Protection Agency, they can change the name : United State Environmental Destroyer Agency even they never actually destroy environment anywhere . If someone disagree with me , can you give me a better answer ?

“ prospectof those ideas ever beingput into practice on a large scale is really small. “

If someone help me edit this manuscript better , teach me about manuscript ( he / she become a co author of this manuscript too ) than I send to a scientific magazine , than they publish it . Reporters read article Climate Change and Global serious Errors of Design , than they go to US EPA , ask the representations of US EPA and they can ask all US EPA employees about the problem in the article , all of them can not comment anything . US EPA’s prestige is down . But reporters and communications systems will not focus on US EPA only , next target is all US government’s buildings . And communication systems focus on all governement and their buildings around the world . If government don’t fix the errors of the buildings , they can stop tell us protect the environment . Law maker will have to fix the problem in law system . You help me , you will become famous because it’s a world scandal , the biggest scandal in human history . Do you disagree with me ? Or US EPA and US don’t fix the problem so they face vox populi ? Can they ? And other governments too , can they face vox populi of their countries ? I think they can’t . Law system of the world must change , that is a history . I need 1 person help me , hep the world when all of you understand the problem clearly .

But if all government , and all school , universities can face vox populi and don’t plant trees , plants at somewhere for their buildings , and all law maker don’t fix the problem of the protecting environment law , they can stop teach people protect the environment if they have shame . If they don’t have shame can continue teach people protect environment , people will smile into their face . If a magazine use this manuscript , publish it , I finish my wish , tell people the risk of environmental law , ........ . My consicence can relaxed because I tell people the risk .

Time to talk about money .

About University of Texas at Dallas , first academic building in Texas to receive LEED Platinum status. This is the area of

University of Texas at Dallas :
The wild grass area = 14.6 acres can absorb 58152712 kg CO2 * 2.2 = 127935966.4 lbs O2 .
1 tree absorb average 45 lbs CO2 per year so to restore the environment , we need : : 127935966 / 45 = 2843021 trees . To much trees , right ?
But according to http://www.everything71.com/2012/02/10-type-of-trees-most-carbon-dioxide.html
10 type of trees :
1. Trembesi (Samanea saman) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 28.488,39 kg/year.
2. Bamboo (Bambuseae) : Carbon dioxide that absorbed by bamboo still do not know for sure, but it is estimated 14 tons/year.
3. Cassia (Cassia sp) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 5.295,47 kg/year.
4. Cananga/Kenanga (Canangium odoratum) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 756,59 kg/year.
5. Pingku (Dysoxylum excelsum) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 720,49 kg/year.
6. Banyan/Beringin (Ficus benyamina) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 535,90 kg/year.
7. Krey Payung (Fellicium decipiens) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 404,83 kg/year.
8. Matoa (Pometia pinnata) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 329,76 kg/year.
9. Mahogany (Swettiana mahagoni) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 295,73 kg/year.
10. Saga (Adenanthera pavonina) : Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 221,18 kg/year.

Trembesi Wiki : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albizia_saman

If University of Texas want to restore the environment and we use Trembesi to absorb CO2 : 58152712 kg CO2 / 28488 = 2042 Trembesi trees .

University of Texas at Dallas : http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2011/9/20-1...us_article.html

If plant 1 trees need 5 USD so plant 2042 trees need 5 * 2042 = 10210 USD . UTD has 19000 students , if all student and all emplyees of UTD donate 1 USD per , we can have 4084 Trembesi trees easily . And every year , all people donate 1 USD is enough to take care 4084 Trembesi trees ( We make a better environment when we make environment absorb more CO2 than the past , perhaps )

NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction : Absorb 415200 lbs CO2 = 188727 lbs CO2 .

We use Trembesi : 188727 lbs CO2 / 28488 lbs CO2 = 6 trees
NOAA CWCP have 800 employees so all 800 employees of NOAA CWCP should plant 800 trees for a better environment .

Dear God , please let 1 person here give me a little help . I wait too long . Just 1 manuscript about conservation of absorb CO2 , create O2 .

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090803173246.htm

in the U.S. a pine tree is more valuable than most other trees
because of the short maturity time.

also , they are evergreen trees , they always look really nice
and they never look dead or gloomy in the winter.

they thrive on increased amounts of CO2 !!

which impacts me as being the perfect tree for the upcoming
ice age... ie they will stand a better chance of producing O2
as the ice age approaches.

and pine trees plant themselves.


http://lolnature.blogspot.com/2007/05/pine-trees-among-best-oxygen-factories_06.html


you should ask Amaranth to help you with your manuscript.
Im almost certain that she would love to correct it for you.

LOL

you may not yet know that CO2 is not really a major driver of temperatures.



CO2 levels follow temperature levels.
not visa versa

temps drop = life drops = CO2 drops.

money can be made because CO2 is portrayed as a major driver
of temperatures , I am beginning to believe that there are major man made drivers such as the numerous methane
releases that have been halted by capturing methane
in land fills and then burning that captured methane
is contributing to the cooling of the earth rather than
fighting the so called global warming.

our sewage systems that treat human waste may also be a major contributor to global cooling.

deforestation is causing global cooling as the forest cannot
contribute the methane gas that it once did from all the rotting trees.

you need to to step back and look at the whole earth , not just the trees.

Yes , thank you , paul . You know , I will need about 3 or 4 days for a next long post . And again , it contain graphic jobs , so it need some day . After that post , I will contact Amaranth Rose II .

I'm collecting data for the next post , but it's not finish . I hope all of you can wait .

Most of global carbon cycle images I found on internet , the info are the same :

https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=human+co2+cycle&client=firefox-a&hs=dGp&rls=org.mozilla:vi:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=E3wlU6yGFofOiAeW1oCADA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=920







All of the images conbine all factors , natural CO2 emitter / absorption and human’s CO2 .
In my opinion , there is a another way to explain , make everything become easier to understand :

Because land , sea , .... and our plants right now can not store more CO2 , this thing make CO2 of atmostphere increase to high level , so here I split the CO2 cycle image into 3 images , 1st image is natural CO2 cycle but with out human’s factory , cars , burning fossil fuel . There is a surcharge of absorbing CO2 .

Here , I delete " burning fossil " in this image


2nd image , this is CO2 cycle they restore the environment of the past after they build a house : they plant some trees to make the environment equally absorb CO2 just like the past , before they build the house . Perhap 1 or 2 trembesi are ok .



3rd image is CO2 cycle of 1 car , if a family have 2 cars is ok with this image . 1 trembesi is ok to absorb CO2 of 2 average cars



1 family can cost 15 USD or 20 USD if 1 trembesi is 5 USD . If they want more , they can plant some Chirstmas trees , 3 or 4 trees to absorb methane . I “ Google” 2 weeks but no data for me to calculate how much methane 1 Christmas tree absorb .
Trembesi have many names ( And I hope I’m not wrong with this info ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albizia_saman

http://www.ask.com/question/golden-rain-tree
The Golden Rain Tree original comes from eastern Asia. It is also known as the Pride in India, China Tree, and Varnish Tree. It is considered a small to medium deciduous type tree. It can grow from 23 feet inches tall up to 40 inches tall. It has long leaves that are six to sixteen inches long. It also has yellow flowers in the summertime. In the United States, it is a favorite tree among many growers because it can withstand many conditions including poor soil types, air pollution, and drought conditions. It can grow in the United States in zones 5 through 9.
How to Sprout Monkey Pod Rain Tree Seeds | Garden Guides http://www.gardenguides.com/92487-sprout-monkey-pod-rain-tree-seeds.html#ixzz2w7QvT4AU
The monkey pod tree is a tropical member of the legume family. The tree is memorable for its huge, domed canopy and massive, gnarled roots. Growing to a height of 80 feet, the monkey pod is native to South America and grows in many tropical regions of the world. If you plan on growing a monkey pod tree, realize that this tree will get very large and it grows quite fast, from 2 1/2 to 5 feet per year, according to botanists at Bishop Museum in Honolulu. Very heat- and sunlight-dependent, the monkey pod tree is hardy in USDA zones 9 to 11.

The problem in US or any country is do they have any areas can plant trembesi or not ? And family have their own house , they don’t need to plant trembesi in front of their house , just donate money to a environmental organization so they can plant trembesi at some place

There are about 125000 schools in US . If someone help me with this manuscript , a newspaper publish it . And than a school will plants some trees to restore environment . After they plant trees to restore the environment , they plant 1 more tree : Trembesi (Samanea saman) , Carbon dioxide is absorbed reaches 28.488,39 kg/year.
If 125 000 school do this sample thing , we have :
125 000 * 28.5 = 3562500 tons CO2 is absorbed after 15 years , when trees became mature trees .
But according to :
http://www.ask.com/question/how-many-schools-are-in-the-world
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_schools_are_in_the_world?#slide=3
We have 100 millions school in the world , after they restore the environment of the past by planting some trees , if only 50% school have enough money to plants more trees , 1 more tree for each school :
50 000 000 * 28.5 = 1 425 000 000 tons CO2 per years .
We emit about 29 gigatons CO2 per years .
According to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_skyscrapers_are_there_in_the_world?#slide=3
There are 85767 skycrappers in the world :
http://www.ask.com/question/how-many-hospitals-worldwide
If after the owners of skycrappers restore the environment of the past by planting some trees , they have money to plant each skycrapper 1 more tree - trembesi :
85767 * 28.5 = 244359.5 tons CO2 per year .
Than we have many hotels , motel , hospitals , resorts , industrial areas , factories , theatres , police stations , courts , ......... in the world . They can do it .

IF 1 factory emit 365 tons CO2 per year , after they plant some trembesi because of position of the factory , they need more 365 tons CO2 / 28.5 = 13 trees . I think it cost not to much money .
An the most important is our houses . How many house in the world can restore the environment of the past and plant 1 more trembesi for each house ?
Before I post this topic here , I already post this topic on some sciencetific forum , I need to warn people , they need to change environmental law to protect environment :
http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/repo...gy--d6-e283.php
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/81269-climate-change-and-global-serious-errors-of-design/ ,
.........
After this post I will contact Amaranth and I really hope she will help me
We can solve climate change . There is a light .

But if Amaranth wion't help me , I will post on 1 or 2 forum , perhaps environmental sub - forum of about .com and than I ask for help . If no one help me with this manuscript , it's worst , just like the sorrow in my heart in some years . I know my kind - human kind were wrong , but can't warn them and their government even they were wrong unlucky for me . I don't know how to explain , but my life is unuseful .....

Thank you for reading this topic .

There is a hope : here is a hope : MIT ClimateCoLab , James Greyson - Climate Rescue , both follow me : https://twitter.com/HuynhPhuDat

http://www.climatecolab.org/web/guest/plans/-/plans/contestId/1300210 .

Thank you for some questions members here ask me , it make my project better . Thank you !!!

I'm back for a petition :
I found a global environmental problem: To build a building on an area which grow grass , bush , tree we have to destroy the plants . After finishing , we never replant the same kind of these destroyed plants at others places . In reality , the environmental standard , LEED current version of all the countries on the world never force us to grow these plants again at others places . We can get LEED certificate of Green Buildings , ISO 14000 - Environmental Management certificate or meet US EPA environmental standards even we never replant destroyed plants . Our environmental standards were wrong , only focus on air , water , energy & forget destroyed plants . People need to know this issue . If we solve this issue globally by planting destroyed plants , may be we can solve Climate Change , pls sign to stop this issue . How bad the wrong environmental standards damage our countries :



Pls sign : https://www.change.org/p/tom-harris-stop-serious-wrong-environmental-standard