given the poor condition of our us government in regard
to the events that have taken place in the last several
decades with trade laws and the removal of freedoms in the
us , I tend to lean towards the possibilities of many of the events in the below video being quite believable if not actually true. I haven't looked up these events that are
proposed to have led up to the ww2 but I find that the
events in this video make more sense now knowing the way
that tyrants move than the way that the events have been told by the victors of ww2.

Well, I think this probably should be in the NQS forum, but I will make one brief comment. I'm really not interested in watching an hour and a half video. So I couldn't really comment on it. Could you provide a synopsis?

Bill Gill

Really fascinating....

I thought so myself , like I said I haven't looked up the
proposed events that the video is pointing to that led up to
the ww2 but if these events are correct then hitler was pretty much forced into war by the actions and puppet string pulling of the rich tyrants as they imposed their influence on the leaders in poland ,brittan , france , russia and the us , etc ... etc ... as they ( the rich ) needed a long war.

I suppose the place to start looking for evidence is the condition of the economies in these countries leading up to the ww2.

yes.

apx 60 million* people died in ww2 because the idiots in
governments allowed their peoples to suffer so that
the rich could get richer.

* estimates range from 50 million to 260 million

the lenders of money and the governments that borrow that
money are always so willing to strike up deals to make the tools of war.

the governments seem to be happy to spend hundreds if not thousands of times more money on making the tools of war
than they are on making the tools of health and peace.

the lenders don't care what gets destroyed in the process
by the tools of war that their money has built because with each thing that is destroyed the lenders will make even more money by lending more money to rebuild or replace what gets destroyed and it doesn't matter which country the things are destroyed in.

so when the leaders of countries say things like "we need a long war" and they tell another country "I want your economy to be completely destroyed" and when countries intentionally break treaties with other countries that were signed because of a previous war then that tells me that the leaders may have had their hand in the money pot.

I would suspect that someone or some group of people not legally connected or elected to the governments of these countries were influencing the events that led up to the ww2.

and my suspicion points to the money lenders.

I believe that hitler had stopped borrowing money from the money lenders in the years that led up to the ww2 and
germany started printing their own money vs borrowing from
the money lending tyrants and the government puppets of the tyrant money lenders demanded that germany not be allowed to continue as a country because germany was no longer borrowing their money.

that may be the true reason why there was a ww2.

That sounds like the general state of the world, much as it has been since the early days of "civilization".

As with most things, there are other considerations. Alice Miller wrote some interesting stuff linking child rearing methods in Germany with the road to war.

i'm certainly not attempting to say that the atrocities
that the nazi party committed during ww2 did not happen
like some seem to want to say.

the training methods that they used on their children
does seem heartless to remove a child from its parents at
such a young and impressionable age.

I'm not sure how much of the german population was lost
in ww1 but there must have been a feeling within germany to
strengthen its numbers and its people and to build a better germany
through strengths and not through pity from the outside world.

like rebuilding pride.

that's the way it appears to me anyway ...

a lot of times when you feel threatened you build
defenses , Germany didn't have the ability to build a
national defense with armament due to the treaty they
signed after ww1
( the treaty that only the germans adhered to)
so maybe their child rearing methods were
a direct result of their desire to build and have a defense
of some sort after ww1 , and they decided to strengthen their
childrens bodies and minds as a base defense.

I haven't made a strict study of the history of Germany between the wars. However I have gathered a few ideas from my reading. The allied powers forced a harshly punitive peace treaty on the German government. I will say that US President Wilson tried to get the allies to agree to much less punitive restrictions on Germany, but didn't have the power to push it through. But the result was that Germany had a massive depression throughout the 1920s. One of the results of this was that the German people were desperate and ready to grasp at any straw that looked as if it might get them out of their problems. The result was the Nazi party. So a large part of the rise of the Nazis to power was fueled by the allies extreme suppression of the Germans.

Some idea of what it was like is in the book "A Toast to Tomorrow" by Manning Coles. It is the story of a British agent who lived in Germany as a German from the end of WWI to 1936. It is a good story, but not readily available since it is long out of print.

Bill Gill

heres a video that goes back and covers the
warlike nature of the german peoples and their
ancestors , and if these events were true then
I don't blame the other countries in Europe for
not wanting Germany to succeed in advancing their
economy ... still even in this video the money lenders
gave them the go ahead by loaning 200 million dollars
to Germany before ww2 to rebuild their industries
that of course was used to build all the arms they used
during the ww2.

they may have lost the 200 million from the loan , but I'm
certain that they made many billions from the war itself.

just watch Zeitgeist. its mostly a powerpoint with a voice. But its an interesting view of the world we now live in.
there are like 3, each 2 hours.
but was released in 2008 and literally talked about the plan of those controling the world. wich inlcuded invading libia (2011) and syria(2014)