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Posted By: paul Dying to have known - 02/22/13 05:49 PM
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Documentary filmmaker Stephen Kroschel asks whether the long-suppressed form of cancer treatment known as Gerson Therapy could truly be as effective as some cancer survivors claim in this film that offers a wide array of testimonies from medical specialists, health experts, and patients. More than seventy five years after being proven to cure degenerative disease, Gerson Therapy is still virtually unknown to the masses - but why? In order to seek out an answer to this question, Kroschel travels across both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, across the United States, and through Japan, Holland, and Mexico to speak with a wide variety of scientists, nutritionists, surgeons, and patients who have witnessed the powerful effects of Gerson Therapy firsthand.

About this movie
Genres:Documentary
Language:English
Running time:1:19:01
Partner rating: PG-13
Released:2006
Quality:480 (DVD equivalent)

Cast & Crew
Directors
Steve Kroschel
Producers
Steve Kroschel





note:you must have an internet connection to view this movie.
if you don't have an internet connection at home then just
wait till the boss leaves then watch it at work.





Posted By: Neohippy Re: Dying to have known - 02/22/13 06:01 PM
Little bit better with a brief description, thanks!

But alas, still doomed. Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet. Yeah, I went there.
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/22/13 11:35 PM
Quote:
Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet.


strange.

you guys in Canada must have already experienced gun control then?

they have you by the ball's now , not much you
can do about it.

I live in a country that practices freedom so I can watch
videos from everywhere in the world.

I will see if I can find one that you can watch in the
freedom oppressed nation of Canada!

try this one




Posted By: Mike Kremer Re: Dying to have known - 02/24/13 09:03 PM
Originally Posted By: paul
[quote]Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet.

I live in a country that practices freedom so I can watch
videos from everywhere in the world.

I will see if I can find one that you can watch in the
freedom oppressed nation of Canada!




Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer


Mike Kremer said:- Sorry Paul, having lived in Canada for a number of years...Canada is certainly NOT a freedom oppressed Nation.
In fact it has a lot more freedom than its smaller neighbour the USA.
The USA still bans the Communist Party, while George
Orwells book, 'Animal Farm', may still be banned?
The reason your Video 'Dying to have knowm...' was banned is because..
YOUTUBE is well aware that it is illegal in Europe to advertise any cure for any disease.
In fact NO DOCTOR can advertise his practice, nor can any HOSPITAL advertise itself here in Europe!!
Its totally banned and illegal, which is why your 80 year old Video cure for Cancer put out by a German doctor, was pulled by YouTube.
Eating a special food diet and having a regular Ennema of Fruit Juice and Coffee pushed up your large intestine, may not use drugs.. BUT It does state it could cure Cancer .
Stating that ANY disease is curable in Europe... is illegal.




Posted By: Orac Re: Dying to have known - 02/25/13 05:09 AM
While it is not illegal in USA to make outrageous ridiculous and dangerous claims thanks to our freedom of speech laws should you be tempted to try and charge a fee even based on success for such claims you will very quickly find yourself in jail.

You may want to look at the entry in wikipedia on the Burzynski Clinic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic)

For you Paul you can buy the DVD I recommend the 2 DVD set (https://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php...5&Itemid=96)

Mind you I do find it amusing that Paul would think some strange diet and putting warm coffee up your butt might cure cancer ... its the butt thing that convinced you isn't it Paul laugh
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/25/13 06:58 AM
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it is illegal in Europe to advertise any cure for any disease.


you poor poor oppressed people, I feel sorry for you that
the internet is the only place where you can see or hear these types of extremely important cures and remedies.

living in nations that act this way towards their own citizens
must be similar to living in germany in the 1930's - 1940's
even in the U.S. we are beginning to experience the nazi type
control over us.

we have illegal check points that are called sobriety and ID check points where the gestapo even go as far as to break your
window in if you refuse to roll it down and innocent school teachers are arrested after they try to live their life by the
laws of the U.S. Constitution.

let me give you a few examples.



illegal search in the above video according to our U.S. Constitution.



sometimes it almost seems that our government wants us to
understand things, so they do things that make us think.

its like they cant do anything about it but they give us
ample warning about it.



fema camps n such warnings.











Posted By: Orac Re: Dying to have known - 02/25/13 08:42 AM
You poor soul perhaps you should try living in a country that really does practice oppression before you comment, I personally have lived in two.

The only thing oppressed in USA is the intelligence of some of the rednecks who think that stopping for a sobriety test so drunk rednecks don't kill innocent people is oppression smile

As a humorous life observation from those 2 situations I lived in there is a plus side of oppressive governments in that the rednecks are the first against the wall because they are deemed useless for any task smile
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/25/13 04:23 PM
Quote:
perhaps you should try living in a country that really does practice oppression before you comment, I personally have lived in two.


then simply go back to either of the countries that you experienced oppression in since you seem to think that freedoms aren't anything special and should not be something that a
citizen should protect.

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rednecks are the first against the wall because they are deemed useless for any task


I'm not sure what your definition of a red neck is orac , but
lets think about this , a red neck in my world is someone who
does not need someone like yourself to survive.

nothing that you will ever do will help him to survive.

in fact someone like yourself would be a hardship to a red neck in a survival situation.

on the other hand someone like yourself is totally dependent on
red neck's for their survival.

really , what worth would you be , what could you do in a
survival situation to survive?

would you go out to the red necks farms and steal food?
would you try to trade them some of your QM BS for food?
would you go steal the contents of a red necks semi truck?
of course that would be after all the non red necks supplies
in the cities have been stolen and consumed already.

it would be like the walking dead roaming around looking for something but only finding lead based products.

hopefully it will never come to that but until we begin to
manufacture products in the U.S. our economy will continue to
shrink every year.

and more and more prisons will be constructed for the non red necks who are packed into the cities that cant find any income
so they must resort to crime as an income source and then
they become an income source for the gestapo and the prison industry.

what tickles me is your use of those two oppressive countries that you have lived in that you claim are worse as far as freedoms are concerned , yet you use them as a discussion point in a forum to argue that what freedoms we are loosing really isn't much to worry about , that tells me that your just not very bright.
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/25/13 07:07 PM
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The only thing oppressed in USA is the intelligence of some of the rednecks who think that stopping for a sobriety test so drunk rednecks don't kill innocent people is oppression


I could understand actual sobriety check point's set up at the
parking lots of night clubs and even in the parking lots of fast food stores , etc...

but to stop every single person driving down a highway to check
all of them is overkill.

they don't need to cause anyone to exit their vehicle to check
if they are a legal citizen or who they are , all they need to do is to run the cars license plate number.

or get them to hold their drivers license up against the cars window , each card has a readable strip on it.

you have to get an ID card these days anyway when you get your
drivers license so they could simply and effectively check who
you are and see your picture on their patrol cars laptops if
these ID pictures were or are available when they run the cars license plate numbers.

then when they look at the driver through a closed window glass
they will be able to identify if the driver matches the photo
that is registered to the drivers license.

from the videos I've watched their main concern seems to be
to find out who the person is and all under the guise of sobriety checks.

But no, they want to instill in the population a degree of fear
or should I use the word tyranny instead.

It's all a part of the united nations agenda 21 which is to
mass people into the cities so that people can be exterminated
easier.

If I ever get the opportunity to vote to kick the united nation's out of the U.S. I will gladly vote them out.

I don't think that the U.S. needs to be dictated to by the
united nations.

Also , I truly believe that it would benefit the U.S. if we would remove ourselves as members of the united nations.
Posted By: Orac Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 01:13 AM
So you have no problem with the goal of keeping intoxicated people off the road it's how they are doing it .. right

So lets do the next redneck test then .. you accept the objective but not the method.

So lets legislate to have breathtest interlocks on every new car and must be retro fitted in all cars on road in say 10 year. The devices cost around $150 and you must simply blow into the device before it will allow you start a car. There will of coarse be massive fines and jail for defeating or tampering with such devices.

Objective of keeping intoxicated people off the road and you don't have to stop for any road block.

No problems with the above?

Mates at ANU tell me just that approach is actually being undertaken in one state in Australia. Currently they are starting with anyone convicted of drink driving but they want to extend it to all cars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-25/in...drivers/4537250
Posted By: ImagingGeek Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 02:08 AM
Originally Posted By: paul
but to stop every single person driving down a highway to check all of them is overkill.

Except, statistics show, it works and is effective. Given the data, rationality informs us it is not 'overkill' - it is the single most effective tactic invented to date.

Originally Posted By: paul

It's all a part of the united nations agenda 21 which is to
mass people into the cities so that people can be exterminated
easier.

Paranoid much? And you may want to read agenda 21 on your own - whomever fed you this info was blowing hot air up your skirt. Agenda 21 actually proposes the very opposite of what you claim it does - it calls for manageable-sized cities and improvement to rural infrastructure. It asks governments to actively avoid excessive urbanization and the formation of overly-large urban areas.

Its also a non-binding agreement, so one has to wonder what you're so worked up about. But I can see where your opposition comes from - it is full of horrible ideas. Ensuring the poor have access to food & shelter - how atrocious! Prevent people from living in pools of their own sewage - how dare they! Mandating pollution controls - oh, the horror! Building local economies - no capitalism please! Not cutting down all the forests - O2; who needs it!

Yep, it that agenda 21 sure is a bad thing. Causing caring for people, building economies, all while not destroying the biosphere is the mark of the devil!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted By: paul
I don't think that the U.S. needs to be dictated to by the united nations.

And since the UN lacks that capability, one wonders what you are complaining about. The US must ratify all agreements procured by the UN - the UN cannot unilaterally dictate policy & law to the US.

Originally Posted By: paul
Also , I truly believe that it would benefit the U.S. if we would remove ourselves as members of the united nations.

Given your apparent lack of knowledge of how the UN works, and how UN treaties and agreement make it into US law, I'd say your not in a position to make an informed decision in regards to the UN's relationship with the US...

Bryan
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 03:23 AM
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So lets legislate to have breath test interlocks on every new car and must be retro fitted in all cars on road in say 10 year. The devices cost around $150 and you must simply blow into the device before it will allow you start a car. There will of coarse be massive fines and jail for defeating or tampering with such devices.


it would work a percentage of the time.
but in the night club parking lots there would be people selling bags of clean air.

or you could just buy a can of compressed air yourself.

I'm not sure that they could make a drunk driver safe vehicle.

maybe a mental test with reaction times or something.
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 04:50 AM
geek

un social workers , breaking in to homes and stealing / taking millions of children from their parents , millions.

got kids?

you need to grow up and smell the s#!t , the un is wonderful as a income source for the un workers , no doubt.



didn't the nazi's take the children away from their parents
some as young as 2 years old ?

1 million die in Ryanda as un troops do nothing to protect
the citizens , they die as they plead for the troops to stop
the killing.

wonderful un.



500,000 children died because of un sanctions in Iraq



india



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=united+nations+genocide&page=2

agenda 21 results in the U.S.

do you ever want to own land?



here is the agenda 21 document , in pdf.

comprehend with extreme caution.

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf













Posted By: Ellis Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 06:49 AM
Add Australia to the list of countries where it is illegal to make the unprovable claim that you can cure cancer. No video here!
Posted By: ImagingGeek Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 03:10 PM
Originally Posted By: paul
geek

un social workers , breaking in to homes and stealing / taking millions of children from their parents , millions.

And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.

Originally Posted By: paul
you need to grow up and smell the s#!t , the un is wonderful as a income source for the un workers , no doubt.

Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN, how UN agreements enter law, etc, I think we can safely ignore your claims. Random youtube videos of others who have a similar ignorance of the UN and its operations is hardly a defence.

Bryan
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 04:14 PM
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And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.


uh , because the un workers work for the un?

I'm going to say that because the un workers were following
un orders or instruction during the theft of the children
that that is the reason that the un is to blame and I'm also
going to add that the un has been in existence long before these incidences took place , lets try around 1941.

LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters

after we kick the un out I think the building would make a nice
city auditorium where the free people can gather and practice
their freedoms.

Quote:
Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN


you just run your mouth , don't you?
lip service.










Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 04:32 PM
Quote:
Add Australia to the list of countries where it is illegal to make the unprovable claim that you can cure cancer. No video here!


and the general knowledge is that you must endure the available
methods of cancer treatments , and those are well known.

alternate options are not allowed to advertise.

do you feel as if secrets are being kept?

would you say that Australia's , Canada's , Europe's , etc inability to view the video makes a strong point that you should be concerned about?

do you feel protected or oppressed by your inability to
view video's of this nature.

I would feel a bit like a cow in a cow pen waiting for the slaughter.
Posted By: ImagingGeek Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 05:52 PM
Originally Posted By: paul
uh , because the un workers work for the un?

Way to avoid the question. You stated the US should get out of the UN because the UN is forcing the US to apply UN policy. I pointed out this was false - that is not how the UN works. You, in turn, posted something completely irrelevant.

Originally Posted By: paul
I'm going to say that because the un workers were following un orders or instruction during the theft of the childrenthat that is the reason that the un is to blame

There is one small problem with your argument - that being that it is a fantasy - this is not occurring. And, again, if you knew anything of how the UN works you'd realize that.

All of these claims arise from the convention on the rights of the child - but like all UN conventions, it is upto individual countries to ratify & enforce it. No UN staff are involved in enforcement.

The *claims* of child abduction by the anti-UN individuals are based on a completely different thing. The UN is tasked in some areas of Africa with the recovery and rehabilitation of children who have been kidnapped (usually for use as child solders or sex slaves). Various morally-corrupt individuals have tried to associate rescuing children from slavery in one region of the world with the effects of voluntary compliance to the convention on the rights of children.

You have to be a pretty sick individual to relate the two.

Originally Posted By: paul
and I'm also going to add that the un has been in existence long before these incidences took place , lets try around 1941.

What 'incidents'? There are none - other than those mis-represented by various ant-UN types. I was referring to your statements in regards to state seizures of maltreated children, which has been occurring in the US since colonial times. Hell, things are better now than before. In the 1800's, simply being suspected of working in prostitution was grounds for the US gov to seize your children.


Originally Posted By: paul
Again, you're showing your ignorance of how the un operates:
1) they cannot operate anywhere without the consent of local authorities,
2) they generally work with, rather than in place of

LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters

I fail to see how linking to the UN headquarters wiki page in any way shape or form counters what I wrote. Reality is they need permission of local authorities to work in an area, and they generally work with (most often guide) those local authorities. Pointing out their headquarters was voluntarily build kin the US hardly counters that.


Originally Posted By: paul
you just run your mouth , don't you?
lip service.

If by 'running my mouth' you mean providing facts in place of your fictions, than yes, I 'run my mouth'. Luckily for me, it is attached to my brain. You seem to have divorced the two...

Bryan
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 10:23 PM
Quote:
yes, I 'run my mouth'. Luckily for me, it is attached to my brain.


that must be where this came from then.

Quote:
Way to avoid the question.


which question were you referring to?

this question?

Quote:
And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.


or this question?

Quote:

Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN, how UN agreements enter law, etc, I think we can safely ignore your claims. Random youtube videos of others who have a similar ignorance of the UN and its operations is hardly a defence.


although neither are actually questions as far as I'm concerned.

Quote:
You stated the US should get out of the UN because the UN is forcing the US to apply UN policy.


yes we need to get out of the un.
were not going to just give up our property or the right
to do as we wish with our property even if our politicians
want to suck up to the un policy.

that's why we need to get out of the un.

if the un wants to force us
( the PEOPLE ) to follow their policy.

all I can suggest to them is bring it on.

also: you need to learn how to operate the forum controls.

you posted the below underlined crap as if I said it.


Quote:

Originally Posted By: paul
Again, you're showing your ignorance of how the un operates:
1) they cannot operate anywhere without the consent of local authorities,
2) they generally work with, rather than in place of


LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters
Posted By: Neohippy Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 10:49 PM
Originally Posted By: paul
[quote]

would you say that Australia's , Canada's , Europe's , etc inability to view the video makes a strong point that you should be concerned about?







"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

The censorship is within your own borders. Hot damn paul, you're really playing the stereotype the rest of the world applies to residents of the united states.

The USA is responsible for SOPA too. There is attempted closure of international websites, everyday, by overzealous USA based companies/legal firms.

I would love to see the USA out of many multinational organizations, but that wouldn't be fair to the hundreds of millions of intelligent, hard working individuals in your country that we never hear from. These people are smart enough to become vocal, only when they have an actual point to make, instead of wild uneducated speculation... Like your media industry down there.

When trying to represent a 'free' country, do try to keep an open mind. USA used to walk quietly and carry a big stick... now they seem to put the biggest mouths, with the smallest brains, right on the front line of international relations, and citizen representation.


Edit: I'm not saying government there is worse than anywhere else... just louder, and perhaps shorter sighted.
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 11:03 PM
Quote:
The uploader has not made this video available in your country"


I cant see anything like that on the page
or like what you initially posted.

Quote:
Video not available outside the US.


so am I to blame for the actions of the uploader?

Quote:
The censorship is within your own borders.


the uploader was probably advised by youtube or some other entity to only make the video available in the U.S. due to
the oppression in other parts of the world.

you guys have already stated that this type of advertisement
was illegal in your countries didn't you?

perhaps he was being overly cautious.

believe me and I will lead you wrong in every direction.

lets test this...

go get your pistols and your assault riffles and lay them
on the kitchen table.

now count them.


Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/26/13 11:38 PM
back on topic

heres a few more video's on the Gerson Therapy

she was told there is no cure and we'll need to amputate your arm.












another therapy alkaline
Dr. Robert Young on the Importance of Juicing

Posted By: Ellis Re: Dying to have known - 02/28/13 12:47 AM
Paul- I am not unduly worried about the barring of this information. I know that the provision to ban claims of unproven cancer cures came about because of the cruel behaviour of many 'doctors' and such-like who preyed on the desperate patients with cancer. The ban was enacted many years ago.

I am not aware that the death rate for cancer in Australia is horrifically high, compared to other counties- in fact Australia has one of the highest rates of life expectancy in the world. I am aware that for some forms of the disease the cure rate is, in fact, increasing markedly. Some cancers are still hard to treat, and that is the problem with cancer. There is not only one type, and the causes and cures for one are different from the causes and cures for another. So claiming an overall cure cure is rather unlikely.

Whilst such claims do offer hope for some, such treatment is often unpleasant, often unsuccessful and usually time consuming for people who have really not got much time left.

Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/28/13 07:25 PM
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I know that the provision to ban claims of unproven cancer cures came about because of the cruel behaviour of many 'doctors' and such-like who preyed on the desperate patients with cancer. The ban was enacted many years ago.


I know that there are crooks out there who sell snake oil
to desperate people , but there are also people out there
who have proven that some of these cures work.

so your ban is found to be unjustified.

also your ban is found to be cruel to those who seek a cure.

your ban is oppression not protection.

that's just the way I see it , and as you know I'm always right.

LOL

BTW , a similar oppression is available to people in the U.S.
as the facilities that facilitate these cures are not allowed to
practice in the U.S. but that is changing mainly through testimonials
such as those found in the many videos.

and your ban will also change.

I'm certainly glad that she didn't listen to those who are not
banned.






Posted By: Bill Re: Dying to have known - 02/28/13 09:59 PM
This will be my only reply on this thread. Any more would just be feeding the trolls.

The reason that all medical treatments have to be approved before they can be advertised and sold is that the majority of the unapproved treatments are snake oil. They may be harmless, but they do not do what they are claimed to do and they may also be dangerous.

The problem with personal anecdotes as to the efficacy of a treatment is that there is no real proof that the treatment actually provided the relief that the person felt. The idea that it did is: "I did A and then B happened". This is a logical fallacy known as "Post hoc ergo propter hoc" which means, "After this, therefore because of this". The only way to show that the treatment actually works is to do a large study in which the treatment is given to many patients to see what the actual response is. The study should be a double blind experiment. That is there are 2 groups of patients. One group is given the real treatment, the other is given a placebo. However, neither they nor the doctor giving them the treatment knows which is which. That is why it is "double blind", both the patient and the administering researcher are blind as to what is being given. When the results are evaluated it is possible to see that X% of patients given the treatment improved, and Y% of the patients given the placebo improved. Then you can get a real idea of whether the treatment is successful.

And to some extent even that can be misleading. Remember Thalidomide. It was tested in Europe and was widely accepted for a number of different uses, including as a really good sleeping pill that helped pregnant women with morning sickness. In some of them it also helped them have seriously deformed babies. It was never approved in the United States the head of the FDA refused to approve it while under pressure to do so. He said he thought it needed more study.

Based on the history of thalidomide and the fact the the treatments in the videos have not faced the extensive testing now required for approval of drugs/treatments I think that the ban on advertising unapproved medical treatments is a good thing.

Bill Gill
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 02/28/13 10:31 PM
Quote:
The only way to show that the treatment actually works is to do a large study in which the treatment is given to many patients to see what the actual response is. The study should be a double blind experiment.


yes there needs to be a double blind study in order to confirm
the ability of the gerson therapy to those who cannot see.

Quote:
both the patient and the administering researcher are blind as to what is being given.


perhaps this would be acceptable if there were a committee consisting of people who did know who would agree to a 50 year
assessment of their bank accounts and financial records , just in case the medical industry decided to maintain their current murder rates by bribing the committee members.

personally , I really don't care if the medical community or the fda don't approve , I choose to believe those who have
undergone the therapy not those who are protecting their income.

President Reagan declared war on cancer and the fda has been
getting millions of dollars annually , so there you go.

how much do you think these studies cost?

why do you think that these studies have not taken place?

FEAR , would be my choice.
fear of loosing a 200 billion dollar a year heard of sheeple.


Quote:
Twenty Year Veteran:

"This is a multi-billion dollar per year industry and a "cure" would put a lot of people out of work."


by Geraldine Philips
(henrymakow.com)


I work for a "cancer research center" and I call it this only because that is in their actual name.

I have seen and read things that boggle the mind in the so-called treatment of folks over the years. The only explanation is that once the "C" word comes up, people become deaf and dumb to anything but how to rid themselves of this horrible plague.

Treatment is akin to using leaches...and worse...but at a far far far greater price. Walk in without insurance coverage and see how much "treatment" you get.

Cap out your existing coverage in the middle of treatment...and treatment ceases. Immediately. This is and probably always has been about money.

I keep telling people to stop giving money to the "cancer research" because no one is frigging looking for a cure (we have several and they have been carefully hidden away from public view)...this is a multi-billion dollar per year industry and a "cure" would put a lot of people out of work.
- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/by_geraldine_philips_henrymako.html#sthash.YgdA2kmj.dpuf







Posted By: Neohippy Re: Dying to have known - 02/28/13 10:56 PM
Originally Posted By: paul


personally , I really don't care if the medical community or the fda don't approve , I choose to believe those who have
undergone the therapy not those who are protecting their income.





Wow, the ignorance never ceases to amaze.

Not that these people claiming it worked, could possibly have been paid, just like your big brother scenario. But that's tinfoil hat thinking right there.

Immodium causes me to bleed profusely from certain orifices, so my own experience means that Immodium obviously makes everyone bleed. Ban it all together.
And I know paul believes me, since I underwent that therapy, and I am not protecting my income.
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 03/01/13 12:00 AM
being ignorant is of course your choice.

but your being ignorant does not mean that everyone
should follow you and your ignorance.

I suppose you have some type of proof that these people
were not cured by the therapy.

otherwise you are just voicing your ignorant opinion.

perhaps you could explain why this young lady still has
her arm , the same arm that modern medicine wanted to remove
at the shoulder?

because modern medicine did not have any treatment that
would keep her arm intact usable and attached to her body.

if you were not voicing your ignorant opinion then that
means that your opinion was a educated one or your opinion
came from one who has an educated opinion.

either way she still has her arm.

no thanks to modern medicine , the fda , or any of the
organizations or agencies that receive millions each year
to do what the Gerson Therapy accomplished.


Posted By: Neohippy Re: Dying to have known - 03/01/13 03:36 PM
Originally Posted By: paul
being ignorant is of course your choice.

but your being ignorant does not mean that everyone
should follow you and your ignorance.

I suppose you have some type of proof that these people
were not cured by the therapy.

otherwise you are just voicing your ignorant opinion.

perhaps you could explain why this young lady still has
her arm , the same arm that modern medicine wanted to remove
at the shoulder?

because modern medicine did not have any treatment that
would keep her arm intact usable and attached to her body.

if you were not voicing your ignorant opinion then that
means that your opinion was a educated one or your opinion
came from one who has an educated opinion.

either way she still has her arm.

no thanks to modern medicine , the fda , or any of the
organizations or agencies that receive millions each year
to do what the Gerson Therapy accomplished.





And ever since I've been wearing this hat, I have never been attacked by a bear. So it's obviously a bear repellent, and a damn good one. By your logic, I should be advertising it as thus?

I'm not voicing my opinion on the videos, as I cannot view them, nor care to. I'm voicing my opinion on your 'stop the presses' take one example and call it gospel approach.

Wanna buy a bear proof hat?

Also paul, did you know... sometimes cancer actually just goes away? It does indeed happen, so should we adopt a policy of non-action based on those few instances? Where do you draw the line?
Posted By: paul Re: Dying to have known - 03/01/13 11:06 PM
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I'm voicing my opinion on your 'stop the presses' take one example and call it gospel approach.


one example ?

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and call it gospel approach.


its not one example.
its more examples than modern medicine has to offer however.

most of the patients are the ones who have already been told
by modern medicine that there is no more hope.
and they are sent home to die.

and of these there is an apx 50% cure rate.

that's pretty good as far as I'm concerned.

much better than the .01% cure rate with modern medicine.

BTW , if you haven't viewed the videos then how can
you consider yourself as someone who can argue the
contents of the videos?

as for science involved in modern medicine its
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