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Won't the EXACT same thing happen as in the book when we invent the first decent HUMAN-AI program?
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It's a stock story. The entertainment and creative value is in the details of the story.
Harlan Ellison's "I have no Mouth and I must Scream" "The Terminator" Michael Crichton's "Prey"
Crichton explains the concern very well in the introduction to his book. Life is a complex system. We cannot predict with certainty what will happen when we create or alter it.
There will always be unintended consequences and unexpected, emergent behaviors. Therefore it is with the greatest hubris that we undertake creating new life.
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Put two teenagers in the back seat of a car for 10 minutes and you are creating new life with a far greater certainty.
Can we do worse when it is intentional and reasonably well thought out?
I doubt it.
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The only thing I know is that it will say things like, "Bread good!" And that's in spite of bread's great dangers.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." --S. Lewis
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When Frankenstein?s creature first awoke he sort out his "farther" with no thought of violence of hatred. Frankenstein ran and his creature fled to the forest and befriended a family living there secretly helping them until they found him, feared him and also ran. And so he was abandoned again. This is what drove him towards violence and then predominantly toward his creator who created him in such a form that none could love him. This is the question of nature of nurture. This may well be the case with an A.I. how we create it may not be the only thing to consider, we must think how we treat it.
If you believe everything you read, better not read.
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And we will, by definition, treat it abyssmally.
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probably, as species go we suck!
If you believe everything you read, better not read.
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Probably as species go we are average.
That's not a good thing. That's not a bad thing. It is just a thing.
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Well as a species we can't 'suck'; a species that truly sucked would destroy themselves or simply be so bad at the struggle for survival that they would die out. As for "we are average", dude, you need an imagination upgrade.
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It is clear that we are screwing this planet and we are too busy watching Big Brother or American Idol or driving our Big New Shiny SUV to care.
We have been given the greatest advantage of any species on earth , intelligence, and we squander it.
IMHO we don't even come up to average even when we stand up straight with high heels on.
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As I said, if we do screw up the planet before we can colonise the moon then as a species we suck.
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A. We have screwed up this planet. B. We will never colonize the moon. C. It doesn't matter ... the universe doesn't care.
This is not to say we won't have colonies on the moon with a few hundred or thousand people in the forseeable future. But that is hardly a rescue for 6.5 billion morons who have yet to figure out how to create a tomato from scratch.
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