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Black holes are known for their strong gravitational tugs, but gravity alone isn't enough to send matter tumbling into the center of one. Magnetism provides the final nudge, a new study finds.

The research, detailed in the July 22 issue of the journal Nature, confirms a theory first put forth in 1973 that magnetic fields drive both the infall of matter into black holes and the production of light energy created by the process.

A black hole's gravity is enough to draw matter in and keeps it spinning in a stable "accretion" disk. But before it can take that final plunge, the material must lose some of its rotation speed, called angular momentum.

If angular momentum from the disk were not dissipated away, gas in the accretion disk would circle the black hole forever in a stable orbit, like the planets around our sun.

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http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060621_bhole_magnetic.html


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so what happens with the non magnetic matterial


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so what happens with the non magnetic matterial
Thats a very pertinent question.
I cant guarantee my reply is correct, but my guess is 'At the temperatures around a Black Hole
prehaps all matter dis-associates into a Plasma, becoming subject to magnetic fields?


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There isn't any "non-magnetic" material. The accretion disk is heated to plasma by friction. The whole mess is a thermal x-ray emitting magnetohydrodynamic nightmare. Ain't conservation laws a bitch?

http://www.funnelworks.com/design.html
http://www.schoolfunnel.com/index2.html
http://www.bigfunnel.com/

Eventually escalating sturm und drang adds up to a burp. Momenta and magnetic fields squirt out, stuff falls into the black hole. Repeat. What does this suggest about "controlled hot fusion?"


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Sturm and Drang oder Donner und Blitzen in der Tat.

Speaking of plasma wiki has a couple of nice articles.

This one has some neat pictures:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_physics

This is on accretion disks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_disk

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Have you all heard of Wallace Thornhill and these folks?

Their theory seems to be that electric plasmas rule the cosmos , no Dark matter or energy needed, the multi disciplined team provides collaborations for almost everyone; astronomic and terrestrial plasmas, Chaos and catastrophism , Myths, Climate change, ball lightning.............

Thunderbolts.info http://www.thunderbolts.info/

This view of Nova remnant is interesting:
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=88edua1k


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What are the implications of this finding to the Electric Universe Theory?:

Heavy hydrogen find alters galaxy formation theory

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4117430.html


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What are the implications of this finding to the Electric Universe Theory?:

Heavy hydrogen find alters galaxy formation theory

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4117430.html
Interesting problem for the Cosmologists.
But since galactic Deuterium gas can only be seen with a UV detector. It would become invisible when it cooled, or combined,(with Hydrogen) and/or settled upon a large evolving planet, galaxy.
Which might account for its uneven distribution?


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posted on 08/16/2006 5:25 AM by Extropia to http://www.kurzweilai.net/mindx/frame.html

The problems with black holes keeps piling up...

BABY STAR FOUND NEAR GALAXY'S VIOLENT CENTRE,

'The youngest star ever found near the Milky Way's centre is deepening a mystery over how stars could take shape in such a turbulent environment.

Several groups of massive stars have been found within 100 light years of the supermassive black hole at the galaxy's centre. The innermost stars lie in a group less than 3 light years from the black hole and appear to be just 6 million years old, based on the spectra of their light.

But the existence of such young stars so close to the black hole has long puzzled astronomers. That is because calculations suggest that gas clouds at such distances should be torn apart by the black hole's gravity before they ever condense to form stars.

And it appears the stars could not have migrated there from more peaceful birthplaces- the stars are too young to have had time to travel from very far away.

Now, astronomers led by Tom Geballe of Gemini Observatory, Hawaii, have shown that one of the stars in the innermost cluster seems to be younger than the rest, adding to the mystery.

Using the Gemini North telescope to obtain a spectrum of the star, called IRS 8*, they estimate it is only 3.5 million years old.

It also appears to be massive and bright, with an estimated mass 45 times that of the Sun and 350,000 times the sun's brightness. This would make it the youngest and most massive star in the group.

"If IRS 8* is single, its origin is highly uncertain".

But the researchers acknowledge that it is possible that IRS 8* is actually a pair of stars orbiting so close to each other that telescopes cannot resolve the individual stars. In this case, the stars would have exchanged a lot of matter with one another, changing their chemical evolution so they only masquerade as a single young, massive star.

The researchers hope to obtain a more detailed spectrum that could distinguish between the single and binary scenarios'.- New Scientist.

None of these mysterious observations trouble EU. A star could quite easily form near the centre of the Milky Way, because there is no black hole but rather synchotron radiation that is an experimentally-proven outcome of the homopolar-motor generator model of galaxies. No need for black holes, no need for dark matter either.

The idea of assigning age groups to stars (this one is young, that one is old) is entirely fictitious from the ES point-of-view. Stars do not climb up the HR diagram as they burn their reserves of fuel. Rather, they leap from position to position as the current density impinging on their surface changes strength. The fact that some stars have been observed jumping position on the HR digram (IMPOSSIBLE according to mainstream theory but a predictable outcome of ES) speaks volumes.

In the ES model, a star's mass and brightness has nothing to do with age and everything to do with the current density impinging on its surface (well, that affects its brightness, not its mass). The intense plasma discharges at the surface that give rise to starshine also synthesize metals that continually rain down into the star's depths. It is perfectly possible for a star to have the brightness and mass of an old star (according to fusion theory) but also have the metal content of a new star (again, according to prevailing theory) for the simple reason that stars do not age- the Birkland currents powering them simply grow/weaken their output.

I look forward to the next 'mystery' that further strengthen's EU's case.


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I don't think this will suprise our EU Folks:

http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2006/radiomagnetar/


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I have read that Black holes could be the most efficient generators in the universe , is that what this study is getting at:

Here's the paper:
Rotating "Black Holes" with holes in the Horizon
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0511131

Lots of interesting comments here:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2006/8/4/4887

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Maybe GAUGE will provide the answers we need for gravitons, and the Axions of Dark Matter too, and we will have all the grist we need to prove or disprove EU:

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/10/9/1

Also:
I thought this would be supportive of EU views on the Big Bang:

Hypography Science Forums - Big Bang's Afterglow Fails Intergalactic 'Shadow' Test
http://forums.hypography.com/astrono...tml#post130584


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I looked at the link. How does the star, from which the gas is drawn, resist falling into the black hole itself?


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mommentum, inertia, etc. most likely.


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Sorry for the bad link:

Hypography Science Forums - Big Bang's Afterglow Fails Intergalactic 'Shadow' Test

http://forums.hypography.com/astronomy-news/8252-big-bangs-afterglow-fails-intergalactic-shadow.html


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Thanks, Erich.


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