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DYNAMIC TEST FOR ABSOLUTE ROTATION !Light is pushing Air during below test  WORK = FORCE x DISTANCE We have master sample for ENERGY PoRTION (1 mol hydrogen explosion - FLASH ) how many Jouls will lost Light to push AIR ? how bright signal will register FILM ? AIR IS DANCING !!! EXIST OMEGA !!!  PLEASE ADD TO ABOVE TEST BELOW PROBLEM   MACIEJ MAROSZ POLAND 2012 DYNAMICA inside MICHELSON MORLEY 
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so if the ligo suppresses the seismic motion effects then that seismic suppression also nulls any gravitation fluctuations that are the result of seismic activity?  how does the ligo suppress gravity fluctuations? does it only suppress the earths gravity fluctuations? have they discovered some type of gravity shield? 
3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.
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So are you saying the positive waveform means the voltage is going away from earth and the negative part towards earth?
the ligo uses a laser beam in a long tunnel to detect gravity fluctuations. the laser beam will move up away from the earth if there is a increase in gravity intensity coming from above likewise the laser will move downwards towards the earth if there is a gravity intensity coming from the earth. does that make sense to you ? to me its obvious that the detection is taking place when the laser beam bends due to gravity fluctuations. unless Im wrong , figure the odds of me being wrong and you being right...LOL 
3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.
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plus , you should practice your paragraph comprehension your flawed comprehension does not equate to you being right. You have two LIGO's turn the seismic suppression off one and leave it on the other .... DOH.
Wait for a reasonable earthquake now compare results smile
You can tell if the seismic suppression works pretty dam easy and put error bars and numbers around the suppression ability.
also: a laser beam that is being moved up and down to suppress seismic motion will cause the laser beam to form a wave. and: seismic motion waves caused at the earths surface radiate outwards from the epicenter so the two ends of the tunnel will respond to each seismic wave at different times. I did not read where there was a detected motion wave during the recording of the proposed gravity wave detection event but the graphs show that what was detected was coming from below the ligo. the graph shows the gravity intensity in both (+)and(-) since the desired ligo detection was the detection of the gravity of a black hole system beyond the earth then I would think that the engineers and designers of the ligo would have used the (+) side to show positive gravity fluctuations of the black hole system not the gravity fluctuations of the earth.
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Paul lets just say yes you are wrong and it isn't worth even discussing such blatant stupidity any more than Marosz's spam.
Paul go and read the LIGO site and what LIGO is actually measuring which has nothing to do with any gravitational field. LIGO doesn't measure voltages, air pressure or force either, strange as it may be to you. That is why your post is spam and why I will ask Rose to treat it as such and won't answer silly nonsense.
Rose my dear would you like to do the honors and remove both these sets of spam. If they want to make there own threads on their stupidity I have no issue but can they get these longs posts of rubbish out of this thread. I am sure if people are interested they will flock to Paul and Marosz's thread to discuss it with them. To get back to an actual discussion post we now have to scroll back an entire page between these two sets of spam. As discussed above with Paul he hasn't even bothered to work out what LIGO measures and we have long posts on completely unrelated things.
I am not sure what you want to do with Marosz he doesn't seem to ever get the message no matter how much we ask he writes and doesn't post massive walls of spam images.
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Just another 334 posts and Paul will be top poster; perhaps he will not need to blanket threads with posts then, and will be able to return to a less frenetic style of posting.  I would hold out no such hope for Marosz. 
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LIGO ? ??? today I found next s... bonapetit this s.. is about gravitation EAT EAT THIS S... 
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I am with Rose on the other thread Marosz seek help .... honestly.
You obviously have at least realized the observation says your theory is wrong so we have made a small step forward. There were ten others before that but I don't mind we have progress with you.
Yes your theory is wrong and science told you to take a running jump putting it a bit nicer than you. You have worked out your chances of anyone listening is about zero and that is true.
That is called a falsification and your theory is stone dead ... we read it the last rights and cremated it.
Now why don't you try actually learning how they knew what to predict and try reading and studying rather than getting angry. You may then actually be able to get a job in the area and away from CNC programming which is what you said you wanted.
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DOPPLER = THEORY ???V1 = 54 000 km/s V2 = 108 000 km/s R1= 300 000 km/s R2= 600 000 km/s DO YOU RECOGNIZE DOPPLER ? OR I MADE MISTAKE !!!  DIAGRAMS ? my camera = diagram hologram in my brain ?
DOPPLER and RED shift not exist
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 WE HAVE ZERO or DOPPLER RED ??!!!   ZIG HI HI HITLA !!!  BONAPETIT ORAC !!!Michelson–Morley experiment From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Michelson and Morley's interferometric setup, mounted on a stone slab that floats in an annular trough of mercury. The Michelson–Morley experiment was performed over the spring and summer of 1887 by Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley at what is now Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, and published in November of the same year.[1] It compared the speed of light in perpendicular directions, in an attempt to detect the relative motion of matter through the stationary luminiferous aether ("aether wind"). The result was negative, in that the expected difference between the speed of light in the direction of movement through the presumed aether, and the speed at right angles, was found not to exist; this result is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against the then-prevalent aether theory, and initiated a line of research that eventually led to special relativity, which rules out a stationary aether.[A 1] The experiment has been referred to as "the moving-off point for the theoretical aspects of the Second Scientific Revolution".[A 2] IN LIGO THEY are using MICHESLON MORLEY TOOL BUT THEY NOT SEE RED SHIFT ???? famous zero ? how THEY WANT TO MEASURE SPACE OSCYLATION WITHOUT ACCEPT FACT THAT exist doppler ? we have to disprove zero ON THE table = we not have relativity !
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Not sure why you are ranting at me Marosz, I don't see I can do anything about it, but lets try.
Marosz, what exactly is it you want me to do in easy concise instructions?
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Please Evaluate Doppler Earth's rotation respect to own AXIS X point ...................^V1............V2 X-----------------SOURCE----R---SENSOR2 ..................... ..................... .....................R distance ..................... ....................^V3 .................sensor1>V4 Earth is making rotation = Each sensor = Doppler RED shift V1 ,V2 , (V1 + V2 ) WHY IN BOOKS ( physics ) we have FAMOUS ZERO ( Michelson Morley ) it it basic experiment for Einstein ? or it is stupid test  Michelson Morley = Evidence HOW ZERO is NOT ZERO ( it is evidence how theory is stupid ... and empty ) LIGO? they are using INTERFEROMETER to confirm Einstein's Theory ( Marosz' FUNY ! they need use this tool to DISPROVE EINSTEIN to show DOPPLER and COPERNICUS and MAROSZ's effect! they are able read DOPPLER ! not ZERO ! ) THEY ARE ABLE MEASURE ABSOLUTE MOTION !!!!
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BIG QESTION ? WHY LIGO is doing this idiotism ? in my opinion not exist nothing without logic IT CAN BE SPECIAL ACTIVITIY they blocking knowledge about NEW VERY precission GPS SYSTEM to protect SECRET THEY SALING stupid story about TIME AND SPACE .. REAL GPS is very simple to build peple who like BOATS - very well understand that to evaluate position I need only 3 vectors and astronomy time algoitme  to steering GPS we must understand INTENSITY problem 1861 J. C. Maxwell, published his theory of electromagnetic fields and radiation, which shows that light has momentum and thus can exert pressure on objects. 1901 P. N. Lebedev EXPERIMENTAL EXAMINATION OF LIGHT PRESSURE WHERE THE SIGNAL STARTED WHERE IS SENSOR ?    HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING BEARINGS ???  
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I can't understand that wall of pictures, it is like childrens scribble to me. Lots of weird unrelated things.
You have been told this by every person I have seen discussing things with you and still you persist ... your images make no sense.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result !!!!
EXPLAIN TO ME IN WORDS WHAT IT IS YOU WANT ME TO DO.
Even your bad English makes more sense to me than your images.
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HOW WORKS GPS ? A(source)....................B (sensor ) each sensor optica has got SENSITIVE ( parameter) for Example I see You = I'm registering ( 10 Jouls per sec ) Each Source has got POWER ( parameter ) 100 Joul/ sek ( emmision ) HOW BIG INTESITY IS REGISTERING SENSOR ( camera ) A >>> V1 ..................B >>> V1 Absolute motion it is BASIC info to wrote algoritms Where the signal started ? where I see signal ? where is object now ! A > V1 ..................B >>>>>>>>>>>>> V2 Sensor will not register the same intesity ( compare to V1) evidence? this boat can not cross C speed  Exist in universe bodies FASTER tnan Light ? we need ver special observations 45 degree? gives 1,41... C  BR TO ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE KNOWLEDGE and RESPECT LOGICA !!
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You ask a question ... How GPS works? Then post a pile of stuff including images which has nothing to do with the question. The GPS system doesn't give a rats about power or intensity and I can't remotely understand those images so PLEASE TYPE IN WORDS. I can triangulate a signal source with the strongest signal or the weakest it has no bearing I just need a timing advance in the signal. What makes a GPS work is the signal is special it includes a time stamp within the signal. Read ... GPS uses 5 easy steps. http://www.trimble.com/gps_tutorial/howgps.aspxIn step 3 they say this "GPS needs very accurate timing which it achieves with some tricks". The trick is the put the timestamp in the signal. I have no way to relate how a GPS works to your images. You either have no idea how a GPS works or you can't draw pictures. Heaven only knows what spaceships and planes have to do with all this I am lost at the first image. So which is it, you don't understand how GPS works or you cant draw? This is why I refuse to discuss stuff with you because it is like gibberish to me.
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You ask a question ... How GPS works? Then post a pile of stuff including images which has nothing to do with the question. The GPS system doesn't give a rats about power or intensity I can't remotely understand those images so PLEASE TYPE IN WORDS.I can triangulate a signal source with the strongest signal or the weakest it has no bearing I just need a timing advance in the signal. What makes a GPS work is the signal is special it includes a time stamp within the signal. Read ... GPS uses 5 easy steps. http://www.trimble.com/gps_tutorial/howgps.aspxIn step 3 they say this "GPS needs very accurate timing which it achieves with some tricks". The trick is the put the timestamp in the signal. I have no way to relate how a GPS works to your images. You either have no idea how a GPS works or you can't draw pictures. So which is it you don't understand how a GPS works or you can draw? SIMPLE EXAMPLE ! Source ----------R--------sensor1 Source-----------R--------sensor2 Sensor 1 has got huge SENSITIVE ! ( one foton ) Sensor 2 has got VERY VERY Low SENSITIVE ( 1 MJ ) WHAT IS BEETER sensor 1 or sensor 2 ? HOW MANY JOULS/mm^2 is registering left/right wall ? 1861 J. C. Maxwell, published his theory of electromagnetic fields and radiation, which shows that light has momentum and thus can exert pressure on objects. 1901 P. N. Lebedev EXPERIMENTAL EXAMINATION OF LIGHT PRESSURE Light or Radio 3D signal it is EM radiation THE SIGNAL STARTED IN t=0 How big intensity is registering walls ?  HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING EARTH ? CONSTANT ? or NOT ? ORAC use Your brain ? please not read stupid theories about space ! MORE SIMPLE EVIDENCE to SEE black HOLE people are building more biger and more sensitive sensors !!! me ..................LIGHT >>>..........black hole light is not able hit black hole me .............Light>>>......ball > 2m/s I see ball because light hit ball and back to me ( I WILL NEVER SEE FRESH BALL POSITION !!! me ........................BULB >>> XX m/s if I have knowledge about bulb's power bulb's size I can evaluate bulb's motion  I will never see "FRESH Position" for bulb BUT i can evaluate where the BULB started 3D signal ? ALSO bulb COLOUR is IMPORTANT !!!
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