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#52854 - 08/22/14 03:08 PM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: samwik]
paul Offline
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in the other thread that also contains the video discussed
in this thread , you asked me to describe the video because
you could not view the video due to your system problems.

you also stated that:
Quote:
Paul, I don't watch videos such as this, because they often cause my computer to freeze. Plus, I don't think they are "peer-reviewed" or authoritative enough for a science forum.


peer-reviewed?
you must mean only those who allow their minds to accept
the claims that are dictated to them by the propaganda
machine or the IPCC that has been constructed by non scientist and relies on non scientist to further their agenda , because the claims are not constructed by scientist or supported by scientist.

so when you say peer-reviewed you mean reviewed and accepted by
non scientist.


so , I thought I would also post my description here in the
mostly viewed thread.

but theres something that I noticed that you might want to
explain about this physical occurrence.

it is said that the IR light would pass through
the atmosphere to the surface were it not for GHGs
that block or trap the IR , then portions of the IR
is either reflected or absorbed and then re-emitted
by the surface.

correct?

I find it hard to believe that this video does not show
any trace IR heat signatures that should be seen as the
IR is absorbed beyond the glass cylinder and re-emitted back into the cylinder then absorbed by the CO2 and re-emitted downwards as you have said.

there should be a overall glow on the screen from all of
the re-emitted IR that is emitted by the CO2 , but theres no
evidence of re-emission in any direction towards the thermal imaging camera.

re-emission does occur as IR right?


heres my description of the video.

the man in the video has made an experiment that shows how
IR is trapped in the atmosphere by CO2 gas.

the experiments materials consist of:

a thermal imaging video camera. (the surface of the earth)
a candle.( the source of thermal heat )
a sealed glass cylinder that has transparent ends.( the atmosphere)
a bottle of compressed CO2 ( the source of CO2)
a control valve on the CO2 bottle
a tube that leads from the CO2 bottle through the valve and
into the glass cylinder.

a video monitor that is displaying the video feed from the
thermal imaging camera.

the experiment :

the man in the video lights the candle.
he holds the candle to one end of the glass cylinder.
the thermal imaging camera is mounted on the other end of
the glass cylinder.
the glass cylinder is apx 1 meter long and 15 cm in diameter.

he then directs the focus of the video to the monitors display
that shows the white yellow and red thermal heat signatures
of the lighted candle that are picked up by the thermal imaging camera
located at the opposite end of the glass cylinder.

he then opens the valve that allows CO2 to flow into the
glass cylinder and as he does the thermal image of the candle
quickly and fully dissipates and the monitor shows only a cool blue screen.

showing that the CO2 has blocked the thermal portion of the
light emitted by the candle.

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#52873 - 08/27/14 08:10 AM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: paul]
samwik Offline
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Originally Posted By: paul
...re-emission does occur as IR, right?
...after a lag, of about 10 minutes, afaik (how long was that video?).
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Hey Paul, I searched the phrase "NASA report verifies CO2" and got these [sample of] results:
Originally Posted By: google

NASA Report Verifies Carbon Dioxide Actually COOLS ...
northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/.../global-warming-debunked-nasa-rep...
May 22, 2013 - Global Warming Debunked: NASA Report Verifies Carbon Dioxide Actually COOLS Atmosphere! It has indeed been a while since I put up an ...

Global warming debunked: NASA report verifies CO2 actually cools ...
www.city-data.com ... Politics and Other Controversies City&#8209;Data
May 23, 2013 - 10 posts - &#8206;9 authors
Interesting. I wonder how the "Science says that man's carbon emissions are causing Global Warming, and you MUST believe science" crowd ...

A misinterpreted claim about a NASA press release, CO2 ...
wattsupwiththat.com/.../a-misinterpreted-claim-abou...
Watts Up With That?
by Anthony Watts - Mar 28, 2013 - They have completely misread the NASA study and reinterpreted it for their purpose, ... CO2 (and other greenhouse gases GHG's) in the lower ...... It should be easy to verify it experimentally, it's simple physics correct ?


It seems that even the 'Watts Up' folks understand
the simple misreading, which you've been caught up in
for some time now ("...completely misread the NASA study
and reinterpreted it
...") ...since last summer!
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Please review the CO2 basics here -and following:
http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=52835#Post52835
and "the big picture of climate change"

...and review Greenhouse details here -and following:
http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=52856#Post52856
and "effect of changing CO2 levels"
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Paul, since the only links about your claims are from a few months in 2013,
which even the normal denialist crowd seem to disavow; I'm skeptical,
and will wait for the scientific process to verify this....

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#52877 - 08/27/14 04:53 PM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: samwik]
paul Offline
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sam

I think that you posted your reply to the thread I
started about NASA and its findings about CO2 being a
global coolant in the wrong thread.

you may want to repost your reply in the correct thread.
here is the title of the thread.

NASA report verifies CO2 cools atmosphere

but here is my reply for now.

I did a search for the words

NASA Report Verifies Carbon Dioxide Actually COOLS

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=NASA+Report+Verifies+Carbon+Dioxide+Actually+COOLS

and I don't see any links to any page where the NASA findings
have been refuted , if you have a link that does refute
the NASA findings could you please post the link.

until then I will remain skeptical of your reply.

BTW , the search engine I used above to find the links
does not utilize your search history or tracking data that
is collected by each of the 100 - 200 TCP connections that
you have right now to your computer , so the results that
you find will be more of what your searching for , not a
bunch of unrelated stuff that you have searched for in the
past year or so.

if you don't believe me about the number of TCP connections
just check your resource monitor.

resmon.exe

in your system folder.

I personally believe that all these companies should pay us
for the bandwidth that they eat up , unless they remove the
caps on bandwidth usage.





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#52878 - 08/27/14 06:18 PM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: paul]
samwik Offline
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duckduckgo!?! What is this, NQS?

Could you find a science site? All I found (by searching those four 'words' -NASA report verifies CO2) was blogs from 2013.


Edited by samwik (08/27/14 08:18 PM)
Edit Reason: (clarify)
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#52880 - 08/27/14 08:53 PM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: samwik]
paul Offline
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sam

the blue letters that read

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=NASA+Report+Verifies+Carbon+Dioxide+Actually+COOLS

is a link that you can click on.
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#52882 - 08/28/14 12:33 AM Re: Carbon Dioxide Trapping of Earth's Heat [Re: paul]
samwik Offline
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Registered: 10/10/06
Posts: 1164
Loc: Colorado
Paul, your link is obvious; but if that is all you can find,
it is not worth the paper it is printed on ...is it?

Is 'duckyduck' another link from the Spring of 2013?
(Should this perhaps be in NQS, The Not Quite Science Forum)?

Does it repeat your argument?
Is this where your 'unique' notions have been coming from?
===

Originally Posted By: paul
...your search history or tracking data that
is collected by each of the 100 - 200 TCP connections that
you have right now to your computer , so the results....

if you don't believe me about the number of TCP connections
just check your resource monitor.

resmon.exe in your system folder.
...is this just for me, or
do you mean everyone's computer?
===

Are you saying you get different search results, because your computer is different?

~ laugh
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