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The latest BREAKING NEWS about the story of mother earth, which I passed on to Samwik:

BREAKING NEWS about the GIANT IMPACTOR hypothesis--about the planet, Theia, or Thea.

from the NATIONAL POST, page A 8

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/13/...e-path-to-life/

Sam, are you already familiar with this theory? Sounds like what was going on on earth just prior to, or contemporary with, PANGEA. Hmmm!

And, have you heard of theanthropism? A new idea that I, as a theanthropist--one who for decades has believed that matter (soma) and spirit (pneuma) can, sparked by WILLpower, be at-one-ment, like Jesus taught--like.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/13/...e-path-to-life/

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I tried following that link, but it said the page didn't exist.

Rev:
I got the same page not found error. Can you check your link and see if it's working for you? Otherwise, could you find another link to it or something similar? Thanks.

Amaranth and all Friends at SAGG: Try the following and we'll see what happens.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/13/...e-path-to-life/
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It worked for me, just now. If for you it fails, I have other options to suggest.

HERE IS WHAT WIKI SAYS ABOUT THE THEORY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis

OBVIOUSLY, THE IMPACT HYPOTHESIS IS CONTROVERSIAL
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http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/201...ons-origin.html

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Sounds very Biblical, and theological, eh!

G~Õ~D?, not a being with dimensions, but a Great-Omni-Dazzlement--the kind of light that Generates Organizes & Delivers: ALL that is- god-like & Good.

You've lost me there, Rev. Big impact, 4.5 billion years ago. Formation of Pangea, about 250 million years ago. You can't be suggesting they are "contemporary". I must have missed something.

Bill S, in response to your comment, I ONLY KNOW WHAT I LEARN BY READING WHAT I FIND ON THE INTERNET--inspired by similar words once uttered by the late Will Rogers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/441211/Pangea
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As to what happened and when, I will leave it to the experts to help keep us informed as to what they know about the story of mother earth--before, during and after the "giant impact".

Have you or anyone else information to share?

Being that he led this conversation towards the usual..

All this was just a stab at sensationalism to get the attention of a few, to continue with the usual sales pitch...

Now if someone decides to continue with any conversation towards the relevance of the cosmic collision, it will no doubt give the rev. ample opportunity to direct the conversation back towards himself and his G~Õ~D.

Outside if that.. all he knows is what he reads on the internet!

Did you miss this from the Britannica article? :

FRIENDS AT SAGG, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS ABOUT THE FIRST DAYS OF THIS THREAD.

They came to this thread from a DA Morgan, from Seattle Washington--I wonder if DAM is still in the land of the living--116 pages and over 8 million hits ago, shortly after Ms. Ellis, a teacher from Australia made her first thoughtful post.

NOTE: All the following quotes were made by DA Morgan.













Later, in some follow-up comments between each quote, I will add my thoughts. Feel free to add yours. BTW, is there an easy way to go back and visit what was said in 2007--the first year of this thread?

NOTE: All the following quotes were made by DA Morgan.

Most churches, including, especially the UC of Canada http://www.united-church.ca/home do not license self-anointed ministers. It takes seven year or more to get ordained.

Of what value is this comment? Is this some form of secret code? Is calling names the respectful thing to do? Thanks for your opinion. So, what else is new? Sad! Isn't it?
BTW, is there an easy way to go back and visit what was said in 2007--the first year of this thread?

Bill S: With you in mind I made a point of searching the archives of the National Post, Canada. Here is what I found: The article by Joseph Brean, about the GIANT IMPACT HYPOTHESIS:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/13/...e-path-to-life/

IMO, at this point life began to develop more efficiently than usual. This happened, because when our first ancestors evolved to the point of being conscious beings they received the Gift 0f Discernment--G~Õ~D, which enabled them use WILLpower to Generate, 0rganize and Deliver that which is Good, Optimistic and Delightful.

Just checking in to see ......

...you could quote something, which back then seemed like a good conversation starter, and see where it goes now.

...I once got to see an address by Holmes Rolston III, professor emeritus (and father of Environmental Ethics ...iirc); and he spoke about the Three Big Bangs.

Of course the first, physical, big bang is obvious; but he added Life as the second big bang, and Consciousness as the third big bang. But I think he meant self-consciousness, though the dividing line is very blurry.

I've always interpreted that line about how 'in the beginning was the word' as referring to that third big bang. "The word" signifies the dawn of 'meaning' and 'value' ...and as well, as Rolston says, "that to value something, one must possess consciousness."

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Thanks, Samwik, I feel you see the 'LIGHT':

I like to think of G~O~D as the the Great Omni Dazzlement--that is, the flash of 'LIGHT' from within and around us--the light of knowledge and the desire to be willing and wise enough to use our knowledge morally and ethically.

...me too; and I bet we all like to think of G~O~D....

Environmental Ethics comprise one dimension of all that exists ...and of love, or omnipresence, or omni... however we define God.

While I appreciate the light and enlightenment, I also wonder about how....
There are the personal aspects as well as the generational aspects to consider.

At the generational level, what do you think about the way things are going for The Creation; do you think today's "business as usual" course will sustain this Creation, to which we awoke some millennia ago?

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Sam, note that I have re-edited my most recent theological comment about the 'god-hypothesis'. Also, I do not make the claim that I am the only non-theist THEIST: Sam, I am happy to say this: It is always a great pleasure to have a dialogue with posters like you. You have important things to say, important questions to ask, and you know how to be part of a friendly dialogue.

Now, about your questions. You ask me, Now I ask you, what do you mean by You also ask, Define, "business as usual". Have I you further? I hope not!

I'd expect so; whatever their definition, most do. ...or did you mean "think of..." as only per your 'transcendent' definition?



Religion fulfills various 'personal' needs for individuals, and religion is often critiqued from this perspective.
However....

From a 'generational' perspective, religion serves various functions, such as transmitting traditions and memories over generations of families, across the centuries. Before we had "strong and enduring" governments, corporations, or educational institutions, religions served the function of 'remembering' the culture, to a large extent, istm. And many of the functions, which are now provided by various social institutions--from dating/marriage services to universities to insurance, were in the past only structured through the religious hierarchies.

I'm not saying it was always an 'either/or' situation, but as populations and societies grow, I'd expect that many of the functions, which religions once fulfilled at the social level (generational level), have waxed and waned historically many times over. ...but I'll stop digging this hole any deeper now.
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While religions help 'personally,' they also help the community; and it is these community functions and social functions that religions provide, which 'generational' was supposed to indicate. For instance, "Should religions take a moral stand on the treatment or plight of immigrants or indigenous peoples?" is a sort of 'generational' question one might ask.
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"Business As Usual" is a political term, referring to economic choices and plans or strategies for the future. Choices might be between maximizing short-term profit or long-term sustainability, or finding a workable balance of the two goals ...to get pretty-good profit and pretty-good sustainability.

Especially in the global warming argument, and with the economic consequences caused by electric-power generation (and the fuels/methods used), the BAU phrase is a significant social signpost. Governments, religions, and tax policies often hinge on how the Zeitgeist (spirit of the age, or spirit of the time; literally, TimeGhost) feels about BAU.
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...scenarios for "BAU" & biofuels/landuse ...compared with "no" fossil fuels....

"Impact on GHG levels over 70 years comparing two reference scenarios [business-as-usual (BAU) and fossil-free energy scenario (FFES)] with two land-use scenarios (enhanced biofuel and enhanced biofuel plus "buffer stock")"
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...and "BAU" can be applied to any projected scenario,
such as utilization of 'nuclear' capacity.


...so, is there anything going on these days with Canada's indigenous peoples, or with industrial-scale 'power' generation ...as a 'generational' issue?

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Sam, you add ... Sam, what makes my definition of 'god' a 'transcendent' one?

I also ask: What do the common terms 'religion','gods','god' and 'God'--as used in English Bibles, theological writings and by virtually all monotheists, non-theists and atheists--mean to you?

May I also ask your definition of 'theology'? Have you heard the definition given by atheists, some of whom like to pretend they have wit: Theology is a "science" without a subject. HA!HA!HA!
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Here I add,
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