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#52657 - 07/23/14 04:00 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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global warming would mean mostly warming.
global cooling would mean mostly cooling.
climate change would mean warming to cooling
to warming to cooling etc...

global cooling seems to be the better choice to use
because the globe has been mostly cooling for 10,000 years.

climate change would suggest that there has not been a steady
cooling , but thats just not the case , nor has there been a steady warming.

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#52658 - 07/23/14 04:22 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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a curiosity I have been thinking about.

some of the fema camps that have been built all over
the united states have really large heating systems
in them , and are located along rail roads and they have
windsocks for helicopter landings.



could it be that the us government knows were going into an ice age and these camps really are there to evacuate people
who are in cities that have basically frozen over?

I know it sounds opposite from what we normally hear about
the fema camps , but just think about it awhile.

has the government ever kept secrets from its citizens?

would they want to start alarming people?

and why all the underground bases if they think the oceans
will rise?
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#52659 - 07/23/14 05:56 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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some of the fema camps that have been built all over

FEMA camps? I haven't seen any FEMA camps. Now I live close to the local Red Cross headquarters and they have a lot of portable shelters. They are trailers stuffed with the stuff to put together a refugee shelter when there is a disaster of some sort. It depends on using existing facilities, such as school gyms and so forth.

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#52661 - 07/24/14 03:10 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill]
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fema camps on google maps

that really is a curiosity that fema has so many places for refugees , you would think that they are expecting a lot of refugees.

its nice that we do have these camps and places to house
refugees in case of a disaster because just think about Katrina
we had these refugee camps then , just ask anyone of the Katrina refugees that were housed inside them.

Im guessing ( zero )

or the tens of thousands of mobile homes that fema purchased
just ask the auction attendees who purchased these new condition mobile homes after Katrina , they will tell you
how many refugees actually used these mobile homes.

Im also guessing ( zero )

if its not ( zero ) then its most likely below 1% of them.

so that kind of leaves the reason for these camps wide open.

have any of the old school yards been fitted with razor wire
in your area?

heres a video that shows the large furnaces that have been
installed into buildings that never had needed heat before.

maybe it really will be used to repair the trains that will
be needed to move the refugees out of the frozen cities
because the roads are all iced up and bottlenecked with stalled cars.








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#52662 - 07/24/14 03:56 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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Paul,

Out of curiosity I tried the link you posted. One of the places mentioned,
Bay City, MI, I am quite familiar with. The description reads "Classic enclosure
with guard towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay,
which connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway”.

The location given is the intersection of Columbus Ave and Washington Ave.
I drive by there about once a week and have never seen anything as in the
description. No guard towers and no high fence. It is about 5 miles from the Saginaw Bay though.

On the 4 corners of that intersection there is an ambulance garage, a bakery, a
neighborhood park and a tavern parking lot.

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#52663 - 07/24/14 04:25 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: pokey]
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I wouldn't doubt that there are a few of the proposed
fema camps that are nothing more than power plants that look
like prisons.

?

heres a video that tells a little more about the
proposed fema camps.

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#52665 - 07/24/14 01:28 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: Paul
the tens of thousands of mobile homes that fema purchased
just ask the auction attendees who purchased these new condition mobile homes after Katrina , they will tell you
how many refugees actually used these mobile homes.

Yep, that was a major boondoggle. Some of the mobile homes were issued to Katrina survivors, but a lot of them never left the staging areas. Of course after they had been sitting in the Sun for a few months without being ventilated they mostly had unhealthy levels of formaldehyde in them, so that kind of messed up distribution plans. That is what happens when you don't properly ventilate new mobile homes.

Of course I don't think anybody can in any way claim that FEMA, or much of anybody else, did much of anything right with Katrina.

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#52666 - 07/24/14 02:42 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: pokey]
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Pokey, how could you be so naïve? Do you not realise that FEMA have access to cloaking technology? Obviously, the camp is hidden and what you are seeing are holographic projections. Not until you can accept this and ask how many other cloaked facilities there might be will you even be able to begin to take action to protect yourself and those around you.

It’s all an illusion. Even FEMA is a front behind which the real threat hides. The real “shadow government” is the CDC. It is they who have overt detention camps and the power to detain vast numbers of US citizens.
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#52667 - 07/24/14 03:41 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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Has anyone even thought that the camps could be used to
contain ZOMBIES !!!



spooky there at the end of the video , where the pentagon
is preparing for zombie attacks.





theres to much evidence to list in a single post.
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#52668 - 07/24/14 05:45 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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There is a strong possibility that it is the zombie virus that will be used by FEMA once the CDC have perfected an antidote. The virus will then be released, providing an excuse to round up millions of people, who will disappear into cloaked camps and never be seen again. The antidote will be given to selected people who will then easily take over the country, and subsequently, the world.
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#52669 - 07/24/14 05:53 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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Thread drift is a wond’rous thing,
It flits from A to B;
From climate change –
Though it seems strange –
It finds conspiracy.
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#52672 - 07/24/14 07:47 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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That would also explain the large heating systems that Paul says they will have. They aren't heaters, they are furnaces to dispose of the bodies.

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#52673 - 07/24/14 09:58 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill]
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They aren't heaters, they are furnaces to dispose of the bodies.


That makes a lot more sense than the idea that FEMA are stockpiling plastic coffins to bury the bodies.
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#52674 - 07/25/14 02:38 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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"Do you not realise that FEMA have access to cloaking technology? Obviously, the camp is hidden and what you are seeing are holographic projections. Not until you can accept this and ask how many other cloaked facilities there might be will you even be able to begin to take action to protect yourself and those around you.

It’s all an illusion."


Bill S,

Would that be Classic cloaking, holographic projections and illusion, or Quantum?

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#52675 - 07/25/14 04:26 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: pokey
Would that be Classic cloaking, holographic projections and illusion, or Quantum?


Be reasonable! This is Paul's thread, we can't let "quantum flapdoodle" in here.
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#52676 - 07/25/14 04:29 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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Quote:
There is a strong possibility that it is the zombie virus that will be used by FEMA once the CDC have perfected an antidote. The virus will then be released, providing an excuse to round up millions of people, who will disappear into cloaked camps and never be seen again. The antidote will be given to selected people who will then easily take over the country, and subsequently, the world.


well , I certainly couldn't offer a valid argument to that
Bill S , and it makes sense because zombies don't have rights
and this way the globalist scum bags who are intent on attaining a global power over the inhabitants of the globe
will be able to impress upon the global civil population
the idea of justified mass slaughter of the unfortunate
yet well planned zombie population and this way once again
as has always been the norm throughout history the tyrannical globalist scum bag engineers of evil and masters of death
will have used fear to cause humans to murder other humans.

all this evil and death played out by the uninformed gullible actors on the stage inside the theatre of the most evil one from whom they have received their appointed measure of power so that the globalist excrement of the earth can have more power to give to the most evil one when he needs more power.



heres a video that shows the military training to extract an
uninfected civilian who was possibly the one who had delivered
the medication that infected the civilian populace in the area of operation.



the military cant just train in the killing of civilians
so they make the civilians look like zombies , and after all a mass of hungry sick and desperate civilians might well look like and even act like zombies.
















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#52677 - 07/26/14 05:35 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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I found this video and it seems to fit into the direction
that this thread has taken , so I thought I would post it
before the thread becomes redirected.

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#52681 - 07/29/14 04:44 PM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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I've no wish to divert the thread from the direction it has taken, but I thought you might like this one, Paul.

http://www.nature.com/news/error-discove...d=NEWS-20140729
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#52687 - 07/30/14 03:41 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: Bill S.]
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thanks Bill S.

Quote:
“I don't think this lets us off the hook of explaining how Antarctica's sea ice is expanding in a warming world,” says Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

There is, however, widespread agreement that the paper demonstrates the importance of detailed recording of updates. In that regard, Holland calls the study “an excellent piece of scientific vigilance”.


vigilance

back to real science anyone?
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#52688 - 07/30/14 07:31 AM Re: july cold snap next week [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
thanks Bill S.
Quote:
"I don't think this lets us off the hook of explaining how Antarctica's sea ice is expanding in a warming world," says Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

There is, however, widespread agreement that the paper demonstrates the importance of detailed recording of updates. In that regard, Holland calls the study “an excellent piece of scientific vigilance”.


vigilance

back to real science anyone?


That 'Nature' article that Bill S. linked to also says:
Quote:
Paul Holland, an ocean modeller with the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, UK, calls the overall growth figure a distraction, and relatively modest. What truly stumps scientists, he says, is the fact that Antarctica experiences huge ice losses and competing gains in different regions, a pattern that is unaffected by this study.
...But that "pattern" (of competing gains and losses) was predicted back in the early 1990s! Maybe they missed some notes.

From: Oxford Monographs on Geology and Geophysics no.16; Paleoclimatology; Crowley & North; 1991.

[Section 14.2.1 Regional Responses to a Greenhouse Warming]

"Although the East Antarctic Ice Sheet could grow during the initial stages of a greenhouse warming, it is possible that melting could occur if CO2 values reached very high levels. Since CO2 doubling studies indicate winter warming around coastal Antarctica of 8-14 C degrees (cf. Fig. 2.12), much higher CO2 levels could tilt the mass balance of the ice sheet from accumulation to ablation." -p.258
===

I think the entire 21st century will qualify as the "initial stages of a greenhouse warming" event, as this book speaks about it.
In the news, when they talk about "Antarctica gaining ice," they mean EAST Antarctica (as predicted by global warming theory, back in the early 1990s).
However, West Antarctica is still warming and losing ice ...in response to greenhouse warming.

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