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Pete, I’m guessing, but I think the point might be the juxtaposition of:

“If there were two electrons in the microscope at the same time, such interference might happen.”

and “When accumulated, however, interference fringes are formed. Please recall that at any one instant there was at most one electron in the microscope.”

It becomes difficult to construe these statements as saying anything other than that a single electron passes on both sides at the same time, which must surely suggest being in two places at once.

It has to be acknowledged that:

“These interference fringes are formed only when electron waves pass through on both sides of the electron biprism at the same time but nothing other than this.”

introduces another facet which allows “bilocation” to be undertaken by electron waves. However, the fact that the author stresses “that at any one instant there was at most one electron in the microscope” does tend to suggest that he is at least hinting at the idea of an electron being in two places at once.


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Originally Posted By: Bill S.
Pete, I’m guessing, but I think the point might be the juxtaposition of:

“If there were two electrons in the microscope at the same time, such interference might happen.”

and “When accumulated, however, interference fringes are formed. Please recall that at any one instant there was at most one electron in the microscope.”

It becomes difficult to construe these statements as saying anything other than that a single electron passes on both sides at the same time, which must surely suggest being in two places at once.

It has to be acknowledged that:

“These interference fringes are formed only when electron waves pass through on both sides of the electron biprism at the same time but nothing other than this.”

introduces another facet which allows “bilocation” to be undertaken by electron waves. However, the fact that the author stresses “that at any one instant there was at most one electron in the microscope” does tend to suggest that he is at least hinting at the idea of an electron being in two places at once.


I see. I missed something when I read it the first time. I don't understand this comment - Interference fringes are produced only when two electrons pass through both sides of the electron biprism simultaneously. This is different than Young's double slit experiment with photons.

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Originally Posted By: Pete
I don't understand this comment - Interference fringes are produced only when two electrons pass through both sides of the electron biprism simultaneously. This is different than Young's double slit experiment with photons.


From the linked article, it looks as though the electron biprism is a more complex version of the double slit. I suppose the same question arises, though. Interference occurs only when something passes simultaneously through both slits, or on both sides of the electron biprism. So what is the something? Is it a bi-locating particle, or a wave? Personally, I would go for the wave, but I'm just a hitch-hiker. smile

Would you agree that the article could very easily give non-experts (at whom it is obviously aimed) the impression that an electron can be in two places at once?


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ELECTRON HAS GOT MASS M

MASS M IS SENDING GRAVITATION SIGNALS

PLEASE SHOW ME MASS M THAT IS SENDING SINGLAS AT ONE AND THE SAME TIME FROM TWO DIFFEREND PLACES IN SPACE ?






Mass M gravitation and motion ?


p1.....p2......p3.....p4.......M-----> V

Mass M is moving respect to point p1 ,p2,p3,p4 .....

p1 - I know that this point exist in space ( it is virtual point that have got zero own mass .... )


if p1-p2 =p2-p3 =p3-p4 ====> mass M has got constant speed V


Two masses and motion ?


M -------L ------ m >>>> motion
p1


mass M started gravitation signal in point p1


..........M -------L ------ m >>>> motion
p1::::::::p2::::::::::::::::Px

mass m register signal in point Px

How big intensity of the signal register mass m ?
important is distance p1--------Px and inverted square Law


Famous Einstein's Problem
Rocket and constant acceleration Vs rocket on planet




please add to above picture information that
Mass M and m can escape from gravitation signals


Mass M started in past EM wave mass m now register signals from past

What will be if rocket will cross Gravitation speed ?


P1......M------m >>>> faster than gravitation signal
that started mass M in past in point p1


Einstein made huge mistake we can recognize different between rocket that is on planet and rocket that has got constant acceleration .

constant acceleration

M-------m >>>>> SPEED


if speed rise up mass m register lower intensity of signals
step by step lower and lower

rocket on planet

M-------m ----> constant

on planet speed is constant mass m always regiter the same
intensity of the signal that started mass M and planet




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constant acceleration


M---L---m
P1

.........M---L---m
P1.......P2......Px

Mass M started gravitation signal in point P1 after short time
mass m register signal in point Px


................................M---L---m
P1.......P2......Px.............P3......Py


Mass M started signal in point P2 mass m register signal in point Py



DISTANCE P1---Px < DISTANCE P2-----Py



WHY DISTANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT ????


POWER OF THE MASS M GRAVITATION IS CONSTANT
BUT MASS m can not register always the same Intensity of the signal. Intensity of gravitation forces inside rocket between rocket ---person step by step change volume




CAN WE RECOGNIZE DIFFERENT SITUATION PLEASE COMPARE
ROCKET ON PLANET ( constant motion ) and rocket in space CONSTANT ACCELERATION ?

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ohhh
exist one more very important problem

Airplane can escape own sound ( supersonic airplane )

What will be if Electron will escape from own gravitation
What will be if electron will cross own gravitation signal


P1....P2......M-----> V

electron ( mass M ) was in point P1 after short time is in point p2 ...p3 ,...

Where will be electron if V> G

G - gravitation speed
G<C - fact confirmed by many tests


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